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September 07, 2008  
Subject: Lots to be desired.
Group: microsoft.public.windows.developer.winfx.announcements
Date: 6/15/2006 12:04:02 PM
From: =?Utf-8?B?RGljayBEdW1hcw==?= [Email Address Protection]

Computer Consultant Richard C.Dumas says

For several days I have been testing The new Windows Vista Beta software
package on my brand new HP Pavillion dv5020us laptop with 1.99GHz and 1022MG
of RAM- AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-37 3DNow 2.0GHz processor and ATI RADEON
Xpress 200 series 128. MB Mem video - I had intended to use this Beta
version for evaluation purposes until it is released to the public with a
sched date of just after Jan for home versions however,

After only four days of use I have reverted back to Windows XP Pro for the
following reasons- the file which is 3.5 GB took 2 hrs and 15 min on the
first install as an UPGRADE install which means it saved my programs
presently used. I found that there are more bugs in the program than Raid
Roach Hotels- I suffered many crashes w/o reason and most of the software
carried over corrupted so it wouldnt work properly or at all- therefore after
fighting it for two solid days and nights I reinstalled it the second time .
This time as a CLEAN install that automatically included a new folder
created called WINDOWS OLD in which all my current programs and existing
files were put into, inc the entire contents of the C Drive- This install
took 1 hr and 25 min. However, virtually none of the internal hardware
drivers were installed and therefore inoperative until I found a source for
all of them and manually reinstalled them. Then I proceeded to reinstall the
very few basic programs I was using before this second install. This whole
proceedure took a total of MORE THAN 8 hours and still had some small items
to fine tune- A major problem with this install also was that I had no use
for anything they saved in that new OLD folder having completely backed up my
system. The prob being that there was no way to get it to the trash bin or
delete it. I seemed to be able to get rid of most of the files individually
until the folder showed empty. However when I tried to get rid of the folder
Windows kept showing that it was trying to empty out almost 7GB from an EMPTY
folder. After waiting several minutes for this ODOMETER to keep clicking
away, I also got an error mesa that I didnt have PERMISSION to do this
despite the fact I am and ADMINISTRATOR. If that isnt confusing enough every
single move or change you make goes into a new folder called Recent Changes .
The result is that somehow all those 7000 files I thought I had deleted were
somewhere still in limbo causing my HD to show 40GB of used space with the
identical previously installed stuff under XP showing 16GB. I never did
figure out how to get rid of that extra almost 40GB on the HD.
The Vista program uses entirely new and unfamiliar ICONS which takes some
time to get used to-- The familiar "Run" command found in the "Start" part
used by so many advanced users was no longer to be found there and w/o
documentation to tell me otherwise took almost two days to find in under TASK
MANAGER which also had had some changes made to its pop up window- Task Mg is
still accessed by Ctl-Alt-Del- after which a new wavy blue screen takes over
the desktop and offers the viewer several choices-
MY DOCUMENTS has now been replaced with simply DOCUMENTS which is also a
little confusing due too the fact it contains some new catagories and a new
face.

The process of refeshing upon opening each folder to see its contents is
extremely slow while U wait for a new green bar to traverse across the whole
top of the file folder similiar to the familiar sliding install bar on so
many install programs, and if you have multiple files in seperate folders
within the original folder you have to wait the whole thing out again each
time it opens the more inner folders , something Windows XP did in almost an
instant.
Most disappointing is the number of new software and drivers avail to run on
Vista- espectally the new technology 64 bit version which are almost non
existant, so I used the 32 more normal and universally used at present.
After four days of nothing but pure struggle I determined that there are
presently only two Internet Security programs that have been written for, and
will work with, Vista, products from Trend Micro and Computer Assoc. I used
the Trend product and got an error mesa after every boot that said it had an
internal problem and had to shut down. I never got around to the Computer
Assoc product. Norton NIS and Anti Virus from 2003 to 2006 will not work with
Vista. I also found that although Acronis True Image, which is the backup
prog I presently use, loads OK, however when you try to do a complete hard
drive backup it crashes halfway through the pre setup of the task. My present
Internet Accelerator DAP or Download Accel Prog was unable to be loaded,
running into an inability to open a certain file in System 32 halfway thru
the install. The same problem occurred when I tried to install NERO 7 upon
which one of its components INCD is vital if Acronis is to be used in any
backup of the system w/o which Acronis cant function. Hence a double wammy,
my BSPlayer which is only one of several video players that I use worked ,
however I would have had to turn my computer display upside down to watch the
picture. Pretty wierd. That however was solved with a newer version. A MS
WINDOWS DEFENDER program that detects mal and spy software but not virus's is
included in Vista however I discovered that it creates a system restore point
almost every time your eyelashes blink causing extreme memory space to be
used up on the HD. UGH! PERFECT DISK which is the program I use to defrag my
HD could not be installed. It put out an error mesa and simply said in an
honest sentance it was not designed for this operating system that it was
being loaded on. Since NERO couldnt be installed that also wiped out another
video product that I continue to evaluate, Nero ShowTime.

One of the most fustrating experiences came when I tried to do a simple
burn/copy to a CW-RW and found that no matter what type of CD got inserted
into the drive it HAD TO BE FORMATTED. A process that took approx 6 min by
default with Vista. However then I started to get several types of error
messages that I couldnt comprehend because they are using a lot of newly
developed english words to describe problems and circumstances with this new
program. Suffice it to say that I never did, after two days of trying , learn
to burn / copy anything to a CD by either clicking and dragging or using the
Copy and Paste or any other method so encouraged by Vista and familiar in XP
.. The task was ultimately accomplished by using another piece of software by
SONIC called my DVD which I use to burn those magnicifient pieces of
technology and will also copy to a CD. Burning DVD's proved no problem.
Microsoft has dozens of tasks which they ask you to preform with the Beta
version and send the input of the resulting experiences back to them. However
I feel that it would be almost impossible to accomplish those tasks being
that after four days and nights spent plugging up one after another leak, as
fast as one could be repaired another would pop up, the time all spent just
to try to get back to where I could do something normal with my computer let
alone test the dozens and dozens of pieces of software I have, would be
fruitless. So after these four days instead of six months I have thrown in
the towel and reverted back to Windows XP Pro which I have figured out how to
install without SP2, making it half the size and twice as fast. I will wait
until at least six months after its official release and maybe then some,
until they empty out the Raid and Black Flag creatures and I would suggest
the same be done by anyone else chomping at the bit to dive in to the
new Vista.

Oh! by the way . You will no longer see the "Blue Screen of Death" it has
now been upgraded to being "BLACK"

Dick

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