| Subject: WLM9 Beta: "yahoo:" prefix for Yahoo Messenger contacts |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger |
| Date: 9/21/2008 6:31:01 AM |
| From: =?Utf-8?B?VGVvaCBIYW4gSHVp?= [Email Address Protection] |
I believe prefixing "yahoo:" to the name of Yahoo Messenger contacts is not an elegant solution. It is especially problematic when the first character of the contact's name combines with the colon (:) resulting in an emoticon being displayed. |
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| Subject: Re: WLM9 Beta: "yahoo:" prefix for Yahoo Messenger contacts |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger |
| Date: 9/22/2008 3:46:09 AM |
| From: "N. Miller" [Email Address Protection] |
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:22:57 -0400, Brian Murphy wrote: > ".Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B647503A-4D39-4FD3-8840-8BFBAADAE578@microsoft.com... >> "Teoh Han Hui" wrote: >>> I believe prefixing "yahoo:" to the name of Yahoo Messenger contacts is >>> not an elegant solution. It is especially problematic when the first >>> character of the contact's name combines with the colon (:) resulting in >>> an emoticon being displayed. >> Exactly. Why cant they just add a Yahoo icon like the purple " ! Y " . >> thats a much better approach and we all will know, "ah, thats my yahoo >> contact" then just text. >> >> But wait, microsoft is moving away from icons. back to the 3.1 era thats >> great.... <rolls eyes and shakes head> > I think that is the way it was in 8.5 so not sure why they changed it. > Would be much nicer with the Y instead :) WLM 8.5 shows the exact same icon for Yahoo! contacts as for WLive contacts. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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| Subject: Re: WLM9 Beta: "yahoo:" prefix for Yahoo Messenger contacts |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger |
| Date: 9/22/2008 8:37:14 AM |
| From: "Stijn" [Email Address Protection] |
I have reproduced the scenario and I have the same issue with my own Yahoo username. :S is created by the yahoo: prefix which creates a confused smiley. However the Y! icon is still visible. Like WLM 8.5 it is located near the display picture of the distant user. "Teoh Han Hui" <teohhanhui@gmail.com> wrote in message news:64B2C6A8-9DAC-4F7C-8362-D445C24CF421@microsoft.com... > I believe prefixing "yahoo:" to the name of Yahoo Messenger contacts is > not > an elegant solution. It is especially problematic when the first character > of > the contact's name combines with the colon (:) resulting in an emoticon > being > displayed. |
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| Subject: Re: WLM9 Beta: "yahoo:" prefix for Yahoo Messenger contacts |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger |
| Date: 9/22/2008 10:02:44 AM |
| From: "Brian Lapinski [MSFT]" [Email Address Protection] |
Teoh Han Hui Couple of questions for you - 1. Did you use the previous beta as well? Did you notice this problem there? 2. What build are you using now? (Help->About Messenger) Are other beta users seeing this as well? Could you try completely deleting this contact and re-adding them to see if the problem persists? Thanks, Brian Windows Live Contacts Team "Teoh Han Hui" <teohhanhui@gmail.com> wrote in message news:64B2C6A8-9DAC-4F7C-8362-D445C24CF421@microsoft.com... > I believe prefixing "yahoo:" to the name of Yahoo Messenger contacts is > not > an elegant solution. It is especially problematic when the first character > of > the contact's name combines with the colon (:) resulting in an emoticon > being > displayed. |
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| Subject: Re: WLM9 Beta: "yahoo:" prefix for Yahoo Messenger contacts |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger |
| Date: 9/22/2008 10:39:55 AM |
| From: "Brian Lapinski [MSFT]" [Email Address Protection] |
Never mind about trying to delete and re-add the contact. This is a known issue and should be fixed in the final release. Thanks, Brian Windows Live Contacts Platform Team "Brian Lapinski [MSFT]" <testor@live.com> wrote in message news:#KwUQUNHJHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Teoh Han Hui > > Couple of questions for you - > > 1. Did you use the previous beta as well? Did you notice this problem > there? > 2. What build are you using now? (Help->About Messenger) > > Are other beta users seeing this as well? Could you try completely > deleting this contact and re-adding them to see if the problem persists? > > Thanks, > Brian > Windows Live Contacts Team > > > "Teoh Han Hui" <teohhanhui@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:64B2C6A8-9DAC-4F7C-8362-D445C24CF421@microsoft.com... >> I believe prefixing "yahoo:" to the name of Yahoo Messenger contacts is >> not >> an elegant solution. It is especially problematic when the first >> character of >> the contact's name combines with the colon (:) resulting in an emoticon >> being >> displayed. > |
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| Subject: Re: WLM9 Beta: "yahoo:" prefix for Yahoo Messenger contacts |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger |
| Date: 9/27/2008 12:43:28 PM |
| From: "N. Miller" [Email Address Protection] |
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:21:01 -0700, .Chris wrote: > "N. Miller" wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:22:57 -0400, Brian Murphy wrote: >>> ".Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:B647503A-4D39-4FD3-8840-8BFBAADAE578@microsoft.com... >>>> "Teoh Han Hui" wrote: >>>>> I believe prefixing "yahoo:" to the name of Yahoo Messenger contacts is >>>>> not an elegant solution. It is especially problematic when the first >>>>> character of the contact's name combines with the colon (:) resulting in >>>>> an emoticon being displayed. >>>> Exactly. Why cant they just add a Yahoo icon like the purple " ! Y " . >>>> thats a much better approach and we all will know, "ah, thats my yahoo >>>> contact" then just text. >>>> >>>> But wait, microsoft is moving away from icons. back to the 3.1 era thats >>>> great.... <rolls eyes and shakes head> >>> I think that is the way it was in 8.5 so not sure why they changed it. >>> Would be much nicer with the Y instead :) >> WLM 8.5 shows the exact same icon for Yahoo! contacts as for WLive contacts. > nope kid. yahoo had a ! logo... get your facts straight ok I am long past being a "kid", and I have Windows Live Messenger Version 2008 (Build 8.5.1302.1018) up on the computer as I type. And Y! Messenger 8.1.0.421, as well. Showing a Yahoo! contact in the WLM contact pane. Exact same icon as the WLM contact. No "Y!" logo showing in WLM. Now, if I click on the icon of the Yahoo! contact, I get some "toast", with a "Y!" logo in it. But that requires an explicit user action to get there. So, no, there is no "Y!" icon in the contact list pane. That is a fact, Jack! -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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| Subject: Re: WLM9 Beta: "yahoo:" prefix for Yahoo Messenger contacts |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger |
| Date: 10/2/2008 6:46:38 PM |
| From: "N. Miller" [Email Address Protection] |
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:18:03 -0700, .Chris wrote: > "N. Miller" wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:21:01 -0700, .Chris wrote: >>> "N. Miller" wrote: >>>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:22:57 -0400, Brian Murphy wrote: >>>>> ".Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:B647503A-4D39-4FD3-8840-8BFBAADAE578@microsoft.com... >>>>>> "Teoh Han Hui" wrote: <snip> >>>>>> Exactly. Why cant they just add a Yahoo icon like the purple " ! Y " . >>>>>> thats a much better approach and we all will know, "ah, thats my yahoo >>>>>> contact" then just text. >>>>>> But wait, microsoft is moving away from icons. back to the 3.1 era thats >>>>>> great.... <rolls eyes and shakes head> >>>>> I think that is the way it was in 8.5 so not sure why they changed it. >>>>> Would be much nicer with the Y instead :) >>>> WLM 8.5 shows the exact same icon for Yahoo! contacts as for WLive contacts. >>> nope kid. yahoo had a ! logo... get your facts straight ok >> I am long past being a "kid", and I have Windows Live Messenger Version 2008 >> (Build 8.5.1302.1018) up on the computer as I type. And Y! Messenger >> 8.1.0.421, as well. Showing a Yahoo! contact in the WLM contact pane. Exact >> same icon as the WLM contact. No "Y!" logo showing in WLM. Now, if I click >> on the icon of the Yahoo! contact, I get some "toast", with a "Y!" logo in >> it. But that requires an explicit user action to get there. >> >> So, no, there is no "Y!" icon in the contact list pane. That is a fact, >> Jack! > We are talking about verson 9 here.. Well, sort of. Apparently (I can't verify this because I am not a beta tester) version 9 prefixes Yahoo! contacts with the word, "yahoo:". Brian Murphy (see quotes above) stated that he thought that WLM 8.5 used a purple "Y!" icon to label Yahoo! contacts (or maybe he just meant that WLM 8.5 used icons; he hasn't jumped me for misunderstanding. Yet.) I disputed that (in discussion of how version 8.5 displayed contact information). Discussion spanned two versions of WLM: 8.5, which uses a common icon for all contacts, and WLM 9, which, reportedly, prepends "yahoo:" to Yahoo! contacts. Neither uses the purple "Y!" icon. WLM 9 reportedly distinguishes Yahoo! contacts with the text legend, "yahoo:". WLM 8.5 displays *ALL* contacts with the "torso" icon. YIM 8.1 displays *ALL* contacts with a "face" icon. None of the above display a purple "Y!" icon with the contact list open in normal display. The purple "Y!" icon only shows up in "toast". -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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| Subject: Re: WLM9 Beta: "yahoo:" prefix for Yahoo Messenger contacts |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger |
| Date: 10/7/2008 10:56:51 AM |
| From: "N. Miller" [Email Address Protection] |
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:05:00 -0700, .Chris wrote: > Thats part of an icon-less UI. Microsoft thinks :Yahoo: and that face icon > takes your eyes off the quote "less important" stuff and more on the content. > > When really it doesnt. I have a few Yahoo Contacts and I HATE when it shows > Yahoo and that face. Thats really drawing me off the main content and on that. > > I dont see whats a problem with a yahoo ! icon. or even have a category > labeled "Yahoo!" with the purple icon. (Category will automatically be added > to the defalut settings when it dects a yahoo contact. If you have a custom > made catergory then it wont show up) I won't disagree with that sentiment. It certainly shouldn't be a problem, unless there are copyright/trademark issues with Yahoo!, in using a "Y!" icon to distinguish Yahoo! contacts from WLM contacts. But it was never done that way in past versions, as was implied in some posts. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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