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Subject: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/6/2008 11:37:59 AM
From: "JamesJ" [Email Address Protection]

I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?

Thanks,
James

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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/6/2008 12:00:12 PM
From: "Victek" [Email Address Protection]


> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>
> Thanks,
> James

Load the Security Center (in the Control Panel) to see if one or multiple
firewalls are running. I recommend you disable the Windows Firewall if your
suite includes one (so does Microsoft). FYI, Windows Defender is
antispyware (AS). Having more then one resident AS program is redundant and
may slow things down a little, but it shouldn't hurt anything.


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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/6/2008 12:05:52 PM
From: Bruce Chambers [Email Address Protection]

JamesJ wrote:
> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>

Windows Defender isn't a firewall application, so it can't possibly
conflict in this manner.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/6/2008 12:41:30 PM
From: "JamesJ" [Email Address Protection]

Security Center is reporting Windows Defender as being Off
but it still loads at startup?

James

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:Od6cUOFEJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> JamesJ wrote:
>> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
>> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
>> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
>> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>>
>
> Windows Defender isn't a firewall application, so it can't possibly
> conflict in this manner.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot


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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/6/2008 12:42:53 PM
From: "JamesJ" [Email Address Protection]

Shows Windows Firewall being Off.

James

"Victek" <Victek@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
>> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
>> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
>> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
>
> Load the Security Center (in the Control Panel) to see if one or multiple
> firewalls are running. I recommend you disable the Windows Firewall if
> your suite includes one (so does Microsoft). FYI, Windows Defender is
> antispyware (AS). Having more then one resident AS program is redundant
> and may slow things down a little, but it shouldn't hurt anything.


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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/7/2008 2:33:54 AM
From: "DL" [Email Address Protection]

It might help if you told us what AV/Spyware/Firewall you installed, & its
version

"JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:O2diKiFEJHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Security Center is reporting Windows Defender as being Off
> but it still loads at startup?
>
> James
>
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:Od6cUOFEJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> JamesJ wrote:
>>> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
>>> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
>>> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
>>> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>>>
>>
>> Windows Defender isn't a firewall application, so it can't possibly
>> conflict in this manner.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>> Russell
>>
>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>> killed a great many philosophers.
>> ~ Denis Diderot
>



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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/7/2008 3:18:05 AM
From: "Hank Arnold (MVP)" [Email Address Protection]

JamesJ wrote:
> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>
> Thanks,
> James

You should only have one anti-virus program and 1 firewall program
running at one time.

Defender is not a firewall program.... The descrioption is:

"Scan your computer for unwanted software, schedule scans, and get the
latest unwanted software definitions."

BTW, I disabled the Windows Defender service with no consequences....

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/7/2008 10:54:49 AM
From: "JamesJ" [Email Address Protection]

Webroot AntiVirus AntiSpyware
I just changed to enable Windows Firewall and uninstall the other.

James

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:%23LtNzyMEJHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> It might help if you told us what AV/Spyware/Firewall you installed, & its
> version
>
> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
> news:O2diKiFEJHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Security Center is reporting Windows Defender as being Off
>> but it still loads at startup?
>>
>> James
>>
>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>> news:Od6cUOFEJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> JamesJ wrote:
>>>> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
>>>> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
>>>> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
>>>> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Windows Defender isn't a firewall application, so it can't possibly
>>> conflict in this manner.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>
>>> Help us help you:
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>>
>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>>
>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>>> Russell
>>>
>>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>>> killed a great many philosophers.
>>> ~ Denis Diderot
>>
>
>


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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/7/2008 11:02:54 AM
From: "DL" [Email Address Protection]

Then I assume its all ok now

"JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:e%23stILREJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Webroot AntiVirus AntiSpyware
> I just changed to enable Windows Firewall and uninstall the other.
>
> James
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23LtNzyMEJHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> It might help if you told us what AV/Spyware/Firewall you installed, &
>> its version
>>
>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
>> news:O2diKiFEJHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Security Center is reporting Windows Defender as being Off
>>> but it still loads at startup?
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>> news:Od6cUOFEJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> JamesJ wrote:
>>>>> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
>>>>> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
>>>>> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
>>>>> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows Defender isn't a firewall application, so it can't possibly
>>>> conflict in this manner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>
>>>> Help us help you:
>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>>>
>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>>>
>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>>>> Russell
>>>>
>>>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>>>> killed a great many philosophers.
>>>> ~ Denis Diderot
>>>
>>
>>
>



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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/7/2008 1:37:56 PM
From: "JamesJ" [Email Address Protection]

Yes no problems. Just wasn't sure what Defender was for.

Thanks
James

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:eMOJfPREJHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Then I assume its all ok now
>
> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
> news:e%23stILREJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Webroot AntiVirus AntiSpyware
>> I just changed to enable Windows Firewall and uninstall the other.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23LtNzyMEJHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> It might help if you told us what AV/Spyware/Firewall you installed, &
>>> its version
>>>
>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O2diKiFEJHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Security Center is reporting Windows Defender as being Off
>>>> but it still loads at startup?
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>> news:Od6cUOFEJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> JamesJ wrote:
>>>>>> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
>>>>>> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
>>>>>> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
>>>>>> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Defender isn't a firewall application, so it can't possibly
>>>>> conflict in this manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>>
>>>>> Help us help you:
>>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>>>>
>>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>>>>> Russell
>>>>>
>>>>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>>>>> killed a great many philosophers.
>>>>> ~ Denis Diderot
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/8/2008 2:02:41 AM
From: "Hank Arnold (MVP)" [Email Address Protection]

JamesJ wrote:
> Webroot AntiVirus AntiSpyware
> I just changed to enable Windows Firewall and uninstall the other.
>
> James
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23LtNzyMEJHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> It might help if you told us what AV/Spyware/Firewall you installed, &
>> its version
>>
>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
>> news:O2diKiFEJHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Security Center is reporting Windows Defender as being Off
>>> but it still loads at startup?
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>> news:Od6cUOFEJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> JamesJ wrote:
>>>>> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
>>>>> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
>>>>> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
>>>>> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Windows Defender isn't a firewall application, so it can't possibly
>>>> conflict in this manner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>
>>>> Help us help you:
>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>>>
>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>>>
>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>>>> Russell
>>>>
>>>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>>>> killed a great many philosophers.
>>>> ~ Denis Diderot
>>>
>>
>>
>
Why? While teh VIsta firewall is much better than XP, it isn't as good
as the WebRoot firewall...

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

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Subject: Re: 3rd Party Firewall
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Date: 9/8/2008 3:32:03 AM
From: "JamesJ" [Email Address Protection]

I can't tell which is better!


"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:ujbBoGZEJHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> JamesJ wrote:
>> Webroot AntiVirus AntiSpyware
>> I just changed to enable Windows Firewall and uninstall the other.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23LtNzyMEJHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> It might help if you told us what AV/Spyware/Firewall you installed, &
>>> its version
>>>
>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O2diKiFEJHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Security Center is reporting Windows Defender as being Off
>>>> but it still loads at startup?
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>> news:Od6cUOFEJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> JamesJ wrote:
>>>>>> I probably asked this before but please indulge me again.
>>>>>> I recently installed an AntiVirus/AntiSpyware/Firewall software.
>>>>>> Windows Defender loads at startup as does this other firewall.
>>>>>> Is it ok to have both running? Should I disable one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Defender isn't a firewall application, so it can't possibly
>>>>> conflict in this manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>>
>>>>> Help us help you:
>>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>>>>
>>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>>>>> Russell
>>>>>
>>>>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>>>>> killed a great many philosophers.
>>>>> ~ Denis Diderot
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> Why? While teh VIsta firewall is much better than XP, it isn't as good as
> the WebRoot firewall...
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services


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