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December 03, 2008  
Subject: Never Got SP1
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: 9/3/2008 8:44:06 AM
From: AndrewG [Email Address Protection]

I have a Dell laptop that's about a year old and a new Dells XPS
desktop that I got in April just before PCs started shipping with
SP1. Both machines have VISTA Ultimate. I have my Windows Update set
to notify me when new updates become available, but not to install
automatically. I have never received notification of SP1 on either
machine. Shouldn't it have come through by now?

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Subject: Re: Never Got SP1
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: 9/3/2008 8:45:44 AM
From: "Gazill Yanaire" [Email Address Protection]


"AndrewG" <docepac@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1dc1b94f-02ef-4008-90f4-1671f7130aae@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>I have a Dell laptop that's about a year old and a new Dells XPS
> desktop that I got in April just before PCs started shipping with
> SP1. Both machines have VISTA Ultimate. I have my Windows Update set
> to notify me when new updates become available, but not to install
> automatically. I have never received notification of SP1 on either
> machine. Shouldn't it have come through by now?



http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=B0C7136D-5EBB-413B-89C9-CB3D06D12674&displaylang=en


download and install



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Subject: Re: Never Got SP1
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: 9/3/2008 9:34:32 AM
From: AndrewG [Email Address Protection]

On Sep 3, 12:07=A0pm, Ringmaster <big...@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:45:44 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"
>
>
>
> <gaz...@yanaire.com> wrote:
>
> >"AndrewG" <doce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1dc1b94f-02ef-4008-90f4-1671f7130aae@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com..=
..
> >>I have a Dell laptop that's about a year old and a new Dells XPS
> >> desktop that I got in April just before PCs started shipping with
> >> SP1. =A0Both machines have VISTA Ultimate. =A0I have my Windows Update=
set
> >> to notify me when new updates become available, but not to install
> >> automatically. =A0I have never received notification of SP1 on either
> >> machine. =A0Shouldn't it have come through by now?
>
> >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3DB0C7136D-5EB.=
...
>
> >download and install
>
> As usual the Yanaire idiot dodges the actual question.
>
> The OP didn't ask how to manually install updates, he asked why brain
> dead Vista is too damn stupid to let him know updates are available.
>
> One common reason is what's behind a lot of Vista's problems. BAD
> DESIGN. When you tell Vista to let you know about new updates it
> quietly accumulates that information and is suppose to put a icon on
> the Task Bar. Because of poor design if you have lots of icons at the
> far right some get hidden. So the one that informs you about updates
> might be there, but you can't see it unless and until you click on the
> 'show hidden icons' arrow. You would think Vista would pop a window
> and let you know, but it usually doesn't.

It shows the icon and tells me there are updates, and I have installed
dozens of them since getting either machine (the last of which crashed
the computer so I had to go back to a restore point).

My question is, since I'm getting a steady stream of updates, why
hasn't SP1 been among them?

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Subject: Re: Never Got SP1
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: 9/3/2008 10:54:53 AM
From: "Michael Walraven" [Email Address Protection]

On a Dell machine (mine is XPS410) I would suspect that you need to install
the latest driver for your on-board audio driver especially if is an
SigmaTel driver.

Michael


"AndrewG" <docepac@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1dc1b94f-02ef-4008-90f4-1671f7130aae@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> I have a Dell laptop that's about a year old and a new Dells XPS
> desktop that I got in April just before PCs started shipping with
> SP1. Both machines have VISTA Ultimate. I have my Windows Update set
> to notify me when new updates become available, but not to install
> automatically. I have never received notification of SP1 on either
> machine. Shouldn't it have come through by now?


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Subject: Re: Never Got SP1
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: 9/3/2008 12:56:55 PM
From: "leap frog vista" [Email Address Protection]

there are many reasons why you are not seeing SP1, most likely the reason is
that
you have a non compatible driver installed and SP1 is not showing to "save"
you from installing SP1 with a bad driver
thus messing your system up.

That's fine but vista is dumb not to TELL you the reason WHY its now showing
SP1 right. BAD DESIGN once again vista sucks.

see here for detailed information:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343


yanaire the idiot told you to download and install, but MS does NOT advise
that unless you have resolved the issues.....

We have a bunch of computer illiterate morons in here, starting with FRANK




"AndrewG" <docepac@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:709c67dd-a5c2-44e9-af73-f362ebde6e54@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 3, 12:07 pm, Ringmaster <big...@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:45:44 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"
>>
>>
>>
>> <gaz...@yanaire.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"AndrewG" <doce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1dc1b94f-02ef-4008-90f4-1671f7130aae@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> >>I have a Dell laptop that's about a year old and a new Dells XPS
>> >> desktop that I got in April just before PCs started shipping with
>> >> SP1. Both machines have VISTA Ultimate. I have my Windows Update set
>> >> to notify me when new updates become available, but not to install
>> >> automatically. I have never received notification of SP1 on either
>> >> machine. Shouldn't it have come through by now?
>>
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=B0C7136D-5EB...
>>
>> >download and install
>>
>> As usual the Yanaire idiot dodges the actual question.
>>
>> The OP didn't ask how to manually install updates, he asked why brain
>> dead Vista is too damn stupid to let him know updates are available.
>>
>> One common reason is what's behind a lot of Vista's problems. BAD
>> DESIGN. When you tell Vista to let you know about new updates it
>> quietly accumulates that information and is suppose to put a icon on
>> the Task Bar. Because of poor design if you have lots of icons at the
>> far right some get hidden. So the one that informs you about updates
>> might be there, but you can't see it unless and until you click on the
>> 'show hidden icons' arrow. You would think Vista would pop a window
>> and let you know, but it usually doesn't.
>
> It shows the icon and tells me there are updates, and I have installed
> dozens of them since getting either machine (the last of which crashed
> the computer so I had to go back to a restore point).
>
> My question is, since I'm getting a steady stream of updates, why
> hasn't SP1 been among them?


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Subject: Re: Never Got SP1
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: 9/3/2008 12:58:24 PM
From: "leap frog vista" [Email Address Protection]

yes I believe that is the reason too.. .but more information can be found
here


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343




"Michael Walraven" <mexxwalraven@verizon.not> wrote in message
news:69F82CBA-26CA-4D4A-8B5E-8E49FF97BF94@microsoft.com...
> On a Dell machine (mine is XPS410) I would suspect that you need to
> install the latest driver for your on-board audio driver especially if is
> an SigmaTel driver.
>
> Michael
>
>
> "AndrewG" <docepac@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1dc1b94f-02ef-4008-90f4-1671f7130aae@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> I have a Dell laptop that's about a year old and a new Dells XPS
>> desktop that I got in April just before PCs started shipping with
>> SP1. Both machines have VISTA Ultimate. I have my Windows Update set
>> to notify me when new updates become available, but not to install
>> automatically. I have never received notification of SP1 on either
>> machine. Shouldn't it have come through by now?
>

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Subject: Re: Never Got SP1
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: 9/3/2008 1:40:45 PM
From: fb [Email Address Protection]

leap frog vista wrote:
> there are many reasons why you are not seeing SP1, most likely the
> reason is that
> you have a non compatible driver installed and SP1 is not showing to
> "save" you from installing SP1 with a bad driver
> thus messing your system up.
>
> That's fine but vista is dumb not to TELL you the reason WHY its now
> showing SP1 right. BAD DESIGN once again vista sucks.
>
> see here for detailed information:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343
>
>
> yanaire the idiot told you to download and install, but MS does NOT
> advise that unless you have resolved the issues.....
>
> We have a bunch of computer illiterate morons in here, starting with FRANK
>
>
>
>
> "AndrewG" <docepac@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:709c67dd-a5c2-44e9-af73-f362ebde6e54@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
>> On Sep 3, 12:07 pm, Ringmaster <big...@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:45:44 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <gaz...@yanaire.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"AndrewG" <doce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >news:1dc1b94f-02ef-4008-90f4-1671f7130aae@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> >>I have a Dell laptop that's about a year old and a new Dells XPS
>>> >> desktop that I got in April just before PCs started shipping with
>>> >> SP1. Both machines have VISTA Ultimate. I have my Windows Update set
>>> >> to notify me when new updates become available, but not to install
>>> >> automatically. I have never received notification of SP1 on either
>>> >> machine. Shouldn't it have come through by now?
>>>
>>> >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=B0C7136D-5EB...
>>>
>>>
>>> >download and install
>>>
>>> As usual the Yanaire idiot dodges the actual question.
>>>
>>> The OP didn't ask how to manually install updates, he asked why brain
>>> dead Vista is too damn stupid to let him know updates are available.
>>>
>>> One common reason is what's behind a lot of Vista's problems. BAD
>>> DESIGN. When you tell Vista to let you know about new updates it
>>> quietly accumulates that information and is suppose to put a icon on
>>> the Task Bar. Because of poor design if you have lots of icons at the
>>> far right some get hidden. So the one that informs you about updates
>>> might be there, but you can't see it unless and until you click on the
>>> 'show hidden icons' arrow. You would think Vista would pop a window
>>> and let you know, but it usually doesn't.
>>
>>
>> It shows the icon and tells me there are updates, and I have installed
>> dozens of them since getting either machine (the last of which crashed
>> the computer so I had to go back to a restore point).
>>
>> My question is, since I'm getting a steady stream of updates, why
>> hasn't SP1 been among them?
>
>
hehehe...you have no idea what you're talking about do you capin'
crunch. You've screwed up so many computers with your "tweaking" its a
wonder that users don't hide when they see you
coming...oh!...hahaha...they do hide don't they!...LOL!

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Subject: Re: Never Got SP1
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: 9/4/2008 6:52:12 AM
From: AndrewG [Email Address Protection]

On Sep 3, 3:56=A0pm, "leap frog vista" <leapf...@vizztal.com> wrote:
> there are many reasons why you are not seeing SP1, most likely the reason=
is
> that
> you have a non compatible driver installed and SP1 is not showing to "sav=
e"
> you from installing SP1 with a bad driver
> thus messing your system up.
>
> That's fine but vista is dumb not to TELL you the reason WHY its now show=
ing
> SP1 right. BAD DESIGN once again vista sucks.
>
> see here for detailed information:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343
>
> yanaire the idiot told you to download and install, but MS does NOT advis=
e
> that unless you have resolved the issues.....
>
> We have a bunch of computer illiterate morons in here, starting with FRAN=
K
>
> "AndrewG" <doce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:709c67dd-a5c2-44e9-af73-f362ebde6e54@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Sep 3, 12:07 pm, Ringmaster <big...@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:45:44 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"
>
> >> <gaz...@yanaire.com> wrote:
>
> >> >"AndrewG" <doce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:1dc1b94f-02ef-4008-90f4-1671f7130aae@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.co=
m...
> >> >>I have a Dell laptop that's about a year old and a new Dells XPS
> >> >> desktop that I got in April just before PCs started shipping with
> >> >> SP1. Both machines have VISTA Ultimate. I have my Windows Update se=
t
> >> >> to notify me when new updates become available, but not to install
> >> >> automatically. I have never received notification of SP1 on either
> >> >> machine. Shouldn't it have come through by now?
>
> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3DB0C7136D-5=
EB...
>
> >> >download and install
>
> >> As usual the Yanaire idiot dodges the actual question.
>
> >> The OP didn't ask how to manually install updates, he asked why brain
> >> dead Vista is too damn stupid to let him know updates are available.
>
> >> One common reason is what's behind a lot of Vista's problems. BAD
> >> DESIGN. When you tell Vista to let you know about new updates it
> >> quietly accumulates that information and is suppose to put a icon on
> >> the Task Bar. Because of poor design if you have lots of icons at the
> >> far right some get hidden. So the one that informs you about updates
> >> might be there, but you can't see it unless and until you click on the
> >> 'show hidden icons' arrow. You would think Vista would pop a window
> >> and let you know, but it usually doesn't.
>
> > It shows the icon and tells me there are updates, and I have installed
> > dozens of them since getting either machine (the last of which crashed
> > the computer so I had to go back to a restore point).
>
> > My question is, since I'm getting a steady stream of updates, why
> > hasn't SP1 been among them?

Thanks - that's a great KB article. I do have some updates that I
didn't install. As I said, the last one I got crashed the system. I
will back up the entire thing and try again to get all updates
installed.

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