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November 20, 2008  
Subject: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 8/30/2008 12:45:20 PM
From: Dazmarv [Email Address Protection]


Hi Folks . I have been running my system now for 2 years with 3
operating systems on separate drives. I have just updated my processor
from AMD Athlon 64 3500+ to a AMD Athlon 64 x2 Duel Core 4800+ . The xp
pro 64 bit version runs fine as does the xp pro .
My problem is with the Vista Ultimate operating system .
The system starts fine and will just sit at the welcome screen no
problems but when i close the welcome screen and start to use it for
browsing or try to install anything i get the BSOD . I have had
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUALL blue screen & PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
blue screen errors , both of these i beleive are linked to memory. I
have run memtest overnight with no error messages and visa memory
checker 5 passes with no errors . I have installed the amd 64 bit
drivers , bios is latest available , tried turning the memory down from
400 to its lowest and still it crashes .
Can anyone help a puzzled old man with his little bald patch appearing
from scratching it .
Many Thanks in advance .................................... Daz


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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 8/30/2008 2:27:14 PM
From: f/fgeorge [Email Address Protection]

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:45:20 -0500, Dazmarv <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:

>
>Hi Folks . I have been running my system now for 2 years with 3
>operating systems on separate drives. I have just updated my processor
>from AMD Athlon 64 3500+ to a AMD Athlon 64 x2 Duel Core 4800+ . The xp
>pro 64 bit version runs fine as does the xp pro .
>My problem is with the Vista Ultimate operating system .
>The system starts fine and will just sit at the welcome screen no
>problems but when i close the welcome screen and start to use it for
>browsing or try to install anything i get the BSOD . I have had
>DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUALL blue screen & PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
>blue screen errors , both of these i beleive are linked to memory. I
>have run memtest overnight with no error messages and visa memory
>checker 5 passes with no errors . I have installed the amd 64 bit
>drivers , bios is latest available , tried turning the memory down from
>400 to its lowest and still it crashes .
>Can anyone help a puzzled old man with his little bald patch appearing
>from scratching it .
>Many Thanks in advance .................................... Daz
Reduce the memory to 2 gig and then after the install put the rest
back in.

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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 8/30/2008 2:57:20 PM
From: Dazmarv [Email Address Protection]


Reduce the memory to 2 gig and then after the install put the rest
back in.

Thanks for the quick response .
The system only has 2 X 1gig matched pair installed . Totall = 2gb
The vista Ultimate drive has been running fine for months prior to me
upgrading the processor.


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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 8/30/2008 3:12:43 PM
From: "Curious" [Email Address Protection]>

Have you tried a repair install?
"Dazmarv" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Reduce the memory to 2 gig and then after the install put the rest
> back in.
>
> Thanks for the quick response .
> The system only has 2 X 1gig matched pair installed . Totall = 2gb
> The vista Ultimate drive has been running fine for months prior to me
> upgrading the processor.
>
>
> --
> Dazmarv


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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 8/30/2008 4:56:17 PM
From: "Nogginsaked" [Email Address Protection]

The problem is not the memory sticks or XP would not work.
The Microsoft memory tester in my experience very rapidly picks up on faulty
memory sticks, which are more common even out of the blister pack than
manufacturers will admit.
Vista does not play nice in a three way system so your boot manager could be
part of the problem such that Vista did not properly install.
The BSODs you are getting suggest driver issues.
If you can boot Vista into safe mode you may be able to reinstall
motherboard and video drivers and see if that fixes the problem.
Otherwise you need a total reinstall but make sure Vista is in its own and
bootable partition and your boot manager can address Vista as well as XP
oses.



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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 8/30/2008 5:24:49 PM
From: Dazmarv [Email Address Protection]


Nogginsaked;824483 Wrote:
> The problem is not the memory sticks or XP would not work.
> The Microsoft memory tester in my experience very rapidly picks up on
> faulty
> memory sticks, which are more common even out of the blister pack than
> manufacturers will admit.
> Vista does not play nice in a three way system so your boot manager
> could be
> part of the problem such that Vista did not properly install.
> The BSODs you are getting suggest driver issues.
> If you can boot Vista into safe mode you may be able to reinstall
> motherboard and video drivers and see if that fixes the problem.
> Otherwise you need a total reinstall but make sure Vista is in its own
> and
> bootable partition and your boot manager can address Vista as well as
> XP
> oses.

Thanks for the suggestions guys
I also think this is a driver issue because all my other drives run
fine as did the vista before i changed the processor .
I have also downloaded the latest via drivers hoping that would fix the
problem
But no joy there either .
btw . this is not a three way system i have a caddy with swappable
drives . i just shut down and slide the operating system in i wish to
use .


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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 8/30/2008 5:47:42 PM
From: "Curious" [Email Address Protection]>

As long as you download the latest drivers from the manufacturers Websites
and not from Win Update since
win update drivers are often way out of date and/or not compatible with
other programs installed on your system.
Did you try a repair install as I proposed previously or can you select
repair from an F8 boot. Your problem appears to be related to the fact that
your current installation does not know how to handle dual cores until the
OS files recognizes that it needs to.
"Dazmarv" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Nogginsaked;824483 Wrote:
>> The problem is not the memory sticks or XP would not work.
>> The Microsoft memory tester in my experience very rapidly picks up on
>> faulty
>> memory sticks, which are more common even out of the blister pack than
>> manufacturers will admit.
>> Vista does not play nice in a three way system so your boot manager
>> could be
>> part of the problem such that Vista did not properly install.
>> The BSODs you are getting suggest driver issues.
>> If you can boot Vista into safe mode you may be able to reinstall
>> motherboard and video drivers and see if that fixes the problem.
>> Otherwise you need a total reinstall but make sure Vista is in its own
>> and
>> bootable partition and your boot manager can address Vista as well as
>> XP
>> oses.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions guys
> I also think this is a driver issue because all my other drives run
> fine as did the vista before i changed the processor .
> I have also downloaded the latest via drivers hoping that would fix the
> problem
> But no joy there either .
> btw . this is not a three way system i have a caddy with swappable
> drives . i just shut down and slide the operating system in i wish to
> use .
>
>
> --
> Dazmarv


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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 8/31/2008 12:03:51 AM
From: Dazmarv [Email Address Protection]


Thanks curious . I have not tried a repair install but will give it a go
and report back on the outcome .
Cheers ...........


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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 9/1/2008 2:07:32 PM
From: Dazmarv [Email Address Protection]


Yes i have tried AMD site for drivers but there is nothing for vista
Every link takes you to a driver and utility page with drivers for
windows xp
not for vista .


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Subject: Re: AMD Athlon 64 x 2 System crash
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Date: 9/3/2008 5:02:35 PM
From: "Timothy Davis [MSFT]" [Email Address Protection]

Do you have a crash dump file you can share with us?

[%windir%\Minidump] folder is the default location (I think).

"Dazmarv" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Yes i have tried AMD site for drivers but there is nothing for vista
> Every link takes you to a driver and utility page with drivers for
> windows xp
> not for vista .
>
>
> --
> Dazmarv


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