| Subject: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security |
| Date: 8/28/2008 3:58:15 PM |
| From: "timb" [Email Address Protection] |
OK Now Folks... this is the most peculiar situation I've encountered to date with Visa/IE... Here's what I've done and here's what's going on... I'm trying to access NOAA radars with IE7. NOAA radars are Java applets... An example can be found here: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=PBZ&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes I updated Java to 1.6U7 and applets have subsequently failed... so I... Uninstalled all versions of Java Deleted the Java folder under Program Files Reset ALL of IE7 to defaults... inlcuding the master reset to defaults (made sure activex controls, jre, etc. we're reenabled) Rebooted Downloaded and installed JRE 1.6U7 using the manual java installer (with AV disabled and run as administrator) NOW... Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in FireFox for ALL USERS Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in IE7 in ANOTHER USER (not admin) on this same computer Java applets (including NOAA radars) DO NOT WORK in IE7 for MY (admin) user on this computer CONCLUSION... there is something "user specific" in either IE or VISTA or JAVA that's blocking this funtionality... If I only knew what !!!!! If I turn of User Account Control (UAC)... the problem goes away... Where's the bug ?? Security Policy perhaps ? I'm running 32-bit Ultimate SP1 |
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| Subject: Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security |
| Date: 8/29/2008 11:40:46 AM |
| From: David Sherman [Email Address Protection] |
Works fine on my Vista machine. On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:58:15 -0400, "timb" <mtguy26505@yahoo.com> wrote: >OK Now Folks... this is the most peculiar situation I've encountered to date >with Visa/IE... Here's what I've done and here's what's going on... I'm >trying to access NOAA radars with IE7. NOAA radars are Java applets... > >An example can be found here: >http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=PBZ&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes > >I updated Java to 1.6U7 and applets have subsequently failed... so I... > >Uninstalled all versions of Java >Deleted the Java folder under Program Files >Reset ALL of IE7 to defaults... inlcuding the master reset to defaults (made >sure activex controls, jre, etc. we're reenabled) >Rebooted >Downloaded and installed JRE 1.6U7 using the manual java installer (with AV >disabled and run as administrator) > >NOW... > >Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in FireFox for ALL USERS >Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in IE7 in ANOTHER USER (not >admin) on this same computer >Java applets (including NOAA radars) DO NOT WORK in IE7 for MY (admin) user >on this computer > >CONCLUSION... there is something "user specific" in either IE or VISTA or >JAVA that's blocking this funtionality... If I only knew what !!!!! > >If I turn of User Account Control (UAC)... the problem >goes away... Where's the bug ?? Security Policy perhaps ? I'm running >32-bit Ultimate SP1 > > > > |
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| Subject: Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security |
| Date: 8/29/2008 12:51:43 PM |
| From: "Spirit" [Email Address Protection] |
IE - Tools - Manage Add-on - Enable those that say Java "timb" <mtguy26505@yahoo.com> wrote in message = news:uddIPGWCJHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > OK Now Folks... this is the most peculiar situation I've encountered = to date > with Visa/IE... Here's what I've done and here's what's going on... = I'm > trying to access NOAA radars with IE7. NOAA radars are Java = applets... >=20 > An example can be found here: > = http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=3DPBZ&product=3DNCR&overlay=3D1110= 1111&loop=3Dyes >=20 > I updated Java to 1.6U7 and applets have subsequently failed... so = I... >=20 > Uninstalled all versions of Java > Deleted the Java folder under Program Files > Reset ALL of IE7 to defaults... inlcuding the master reset to defaults = (made > sure activex controls, jre, etc. we're reenabled) > Rebooted > Downloaded and installed JRE 1.6U7 using the manual java installer = (with AV > disabled and run as administrator) >=20 > NOW... >=20 > Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in FireFox for ALL = USERS > Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in IE7 in ANOTHER USER = (not > admin) on this same computer > Java applets (including NOAA radars) DO NOT WORK in IE7 for MY (admin) = user > on this computer >=20 > CONCLUSION... there is something "user specific" in either IE or VISTA = or > JAVA that's blocking this funtionality... If I only knew what !!!!! >=20 > If I turn of User Account Control (UAC)... the problem > goes away... Where's the bug ?? Security Policy perhaps ? I'm = running=20 > 32-bit Ultimate SP1 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > |
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| Subject: Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security |
| Date: 8/30/2008 4:53:33 AM |
| From: "timb" [Email Address Protection] |
Done all that... something's wrong in UAC ! "Spirit" <noone@notthere.net> wrote in message news:eZKnqChCJHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... IE - Tools - Manage Add-on - Enable those that say Java "timb" <mtguy26505@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:uddIPGWCJHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > OK Now Folks... this is the most peculiar situation I've encountered to > date > with Visa/IE... Here's what I've done and here's what's going on... I'm > trying to access NOAA radars with IE7. NOAA radars are Java applets... > > An example can be found here: > http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=PBZ&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes > > I updated Java to 1.6U7 and applets have subsequently failed... so I... > > Uninstalled all versions of Java > Deleted the Java folder under Program Files > Reset ALL of IE7 to defaults... inlcuding the master reset to defaults > (made > sure activex controls, jre, etc. we're reenabled) > Rebooted > Downloaded and installed JRE 1.6U7 using the manual java installer (with > AV > disabled and run as administrator) > > NOW... > > Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in FireFox for ALL USERS > Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in IE7 in ANOTHER USER (not > admin) on this same computer > Java applets (including NOAA radars) DO NOT WORK in IE7 for MY (admin) > user > on this computer > > CONCLUSION... there is something "user specific" in either IE or VISTA or > JAVA that's blocking this funtionality... If I only knew what !!!!! > > If I turn of User Account Control (UAC)... the problem > goes away... Where's the bug ?? Security Policy perhaps ? I'm running > 32-bit Ultimate SP1 > > > > > |
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| Subject: Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security |
| Date: 8/30/2008 5:10:37 PM |
| From: Diblo [Email Address Protection] |
Stupid question Have you try to install the java from the user account (not admin) The install from other programs have still some problem whit the new UAC and user account system. But sry for asking if you have try. -- Diblo |
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| Subject: Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security |
| Date: 9/2/2008 10:58:38 AM |
| From: "timb" [Email Address Protection] |
No, never tried it... I didn't think you could install plug-ins or programs from a user account... well... you can, but what happens is that UAC will ask for the administrators permission... interesting concept... for now on my machine... UAC is toast ! "Diblo" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:cf71ebe570611b1f6e04529ffbf6d810@nntp-gateway.com... > > Stupid question > Have you try to install the java from the user account (not admin) > > The install from other programs have still some problem whit the new > UAC and user account system. > > But sry for asking if you have try. > > > -- > Diblo |
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