| Subject: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 4:20:30 PM |
| From: sniper16 [Email Address Protection] |
hi, heres my situation. i had a pc from velocity micro- it came with an OEM version of xp 32 bit home. I bought the upgrade version of windows vista home premium 32 bit. im at the point now where i realize that my 4gb of ram is not being used in my 32 bit environment. so i ordered the 64 bit alternative media disc from microsoft. my question is how to install this 64 bit disc. will i have activation problems? do i have to install vista twice? do i really have to reinstall xp and will that cause problems? thanks x64 community! -- sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 4:45:45 PM |
| From: "Curious" [Email Address Protection]> |
Did you check to see if Velocity Micro supports Vista 64 bit and greater then 4GB memory addressing on the system hardware that your purchased from them with them XP? When you install the 64 bit version you will use the key that came with your retail 32 bit upgrade package. You will have to a clean install to Vista 64 bit since you you can not run the 64bit install from the 32 bit version only from the installation DVD itself. You may have to use phone activation to explain that you are reinstalling your Home Premium to change from 32 bit to 64 bit. "sniper16" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:c5ec08f62c562c3f94601467a8100c6a@nntp-gateway.com... > > hi, > heres my situation. i had a pc from velocity micro- it came with an OEM > version of xp 32 bit home. I bought the upgrade version of windows vista > home premium 32 bit. im at the point now where i realize that my 4gb of > ram is not being used in my 32 bit environment. so i ordered the 64 bit > alternative media disc from microsoft. > > my question is how to install this 64 bit disc. will i have activation > problems? do i have to install vista twice? do i really have to > reinstall xp and will that cause problems? > > thanks x64 community! > > > -- > sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 5:09:50 PM |
| From: sniper16 [Email Address Protection] |
yes i know the hardware itself can allocate 4gb of ram as my motherboard can see all of it. the nforce 5 series is certainly 64 bit capable. what i am asking is how to install the 64 bit vista correctly. i have upgraded from xp, which subsumes that license if im correct. if that license is subsumed, i cant reinstall xp, which means i have to install the 64 bit alt media over my 32 bit vista home premium currently installed. how long do i have to activate it over phone? Curious;801891 Wrote: > Did you check to see if Velocity Micro supports Vista 64 bit and greater > then 4GB memory addressing on the system hardware that your purchased > from > them with them XP? > When you install the 64 bit version you will use the key that came with > your > retail 32 bit upgrade package. > You will have to a clean install to Vista 64 bit since you you can not > run > the 64bit install from the 32 bit version only from the installation > DVD > itself. > You may have to use phone activation to explain that you are > reinstalling > your Home Premium to change from 32 bit to 64 bit. > > "sniper16" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message > news:c5ec08f62c562c3f94601467a8100c6a@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > > > > > > > hi, > > > heres my situation. i had a pc from velocity micro- it came with an > > OEM > > > version of xp 32 bit home. I bought the upgrade version of windows > > vista > > > home premium 32 bit. im at the point now where i realize that my 4gb > > of > > > ram is not being used in my 32 bit environment. so i ordered the 64 > > bit > > > alternative media disc from microsoft. > > > > > > my question is how to install this 64 bit disc. will i have > > activation > > > problems? do i have to install vista twice? do i really have to > > > reinstall xp and will that cause problems? > > > > > > thanks x64 community! > > > > > > > > > -- > > > sniper16 > > -- sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 6:28:27 PM |
| From: "AJR" [Email Address Protection] |
Vista SP1 32 bit supports 4 gig RAM. Not only must the chipset support 64 bit but the processor must also be 64 bit. Installing 64 bit requires a "clean install" - you cannot "upgrade" from 32 to 64 bit OS - all applications must be reinstalled - backup any data. Note that 64 requires signed/certified drivers. You will have a 30 day grace period to activate. "sniper16" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:c5ec08f62c562c3f94601467a8100c6a@nntp-gateway.com... > > hi, > heres my situation. i had a pc from velocity micro- it came with an OEM > version of xp 32 bit home. I bought the upgrade version of windows vista > home premium 32 bit. im at the point now where i realize that my 4gb of > ram is not being used in my 32 bit environment. so i ordered the 64 bit > alternative media disc from microsoft. > > my question is how to install this 64 bit disc. will i have activation > problems? do i have to install vista twice? do i really have to > reinstall xp and will that cause problems? > > thanks x64 community! > > > -- > sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 6:38:18 PM |
| From: sniper16 [Email Address Protection] |
yes i realize the requirements. i meet all of them. i do have an e6600 processor, which includes the emt64 instruction set. what i want to ask is do i have to have xp installed because my vista license is an upgrade license. AJR;801966 Wrote: > Vista SP1 32 bit supports 4 gig RAM. > > Not only must the chipset support 64 bit but the processor must also be > 64 > bit. > > Installing 64 bit requires a "clean install" - you cannot > "upgrade" from 32 > to 64 bit OS - all applications must be reinstalled - backup any data. > Note > that 64 requires signed/certified drivers. > > You will have a 30 day grace period to activate. > > "sniper16" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message > news:c5ec08f62c562c3f94601467a8100c6a@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > > > > > > > hi, > > > heres my situation. i had a pc from velocity micro- it came with an > > OEM > > > version of xp 32 bit home. I bought the upgrade version of windows > > vista > > > home premium 32 bit. im at the point now where i realize that my 4gb > > of > > > ram is not being used in my 32 bit environment. so i ordered the 64 > > bit > > > alternative media disc from microsoft. > > > > > > my question is how to install this 64 bit disc. will i have > > activation > > > problems? do i have to install vista twice? do i really have to > > > reinstall xp and will that cause problems? > > > > > > thanks x64 community! > > > > > > > > > -- > > > sniper16 > > -- sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 7:09:52 PM |
| From: "Dean Browning" [Email Address Protection] |
Really, HP told me that I would need to by a full retail version of 64bit. They say that my cpu or mb will not take the 64bit OEM over the 32bit OEM Dean > hi, > heres my situation. i had a pc from velocity micro- it came with an OEM > version of xp 32 bit home. I bought the upgrade version of windows vista > home premium 32 bit. im at the point now where i realize that my 4gb of > ram is not being used in my 32 bit environment. so i ordered the 64 bit > alternative media disc from microsoft. > > my question is how to install this 64 bit disc. will i have activation > problems? do i have to install vista twice? do i really have to > reinstall xp and will that cause problems? > > thanks x64 community! > > > -- > sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 7:21:27 PM |
| From: sniper16 [Email Address Protection] |
well its not oem, its an upgrade. Dean Browning;801987 Wrote: > Really, HP told me that I would need to by a full retail version of > 64bit. > They say that my cpu or mb will not take the 64bit OEM over the 32bit > OEM > > Dean > > > > > > > hi, > > > heres my situation. i had a pc from velocity micro- it came with an > > OEM > > > version of xp 32 bit home. I bought the upgrade version of windows > > vista > > > home premium 32 bit. im at the point now where i realize that my 4gb > > of > > > ram is not being used in my 32 bit environment. so i ordered the 64 > > bit > > > alternative media disc from microsoft. > > > > > > my question is how to install this 64 bit disc. will i have > > activation > > > problems? do i have to install vista twice? do i really have to > > > reinstall xp and will that cause problems? > > > > > > thanks x64 community! > > > > > > > > > -- > > > sniper16 > > -- sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 7:42:48 PM |
| From: "Dean Browning" [Email Address Protection] |
It came pre-installed with 32bit. This is not OEM? -- Dean sniper16" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:fff49b380a069e41c37a30f2349a07b5@nntp-gateway.com... > > well its not oem, its an upgrade. Dean Browning;801987 Wrote: >> Really, HP told me that I would need to by a full retail version of >> 64bit. >> They say that my cpu or mb will not take the 64bit OEM over the 32bit >> OEM >> >> Dean >> > > > >> > > hi, >> > > heres my situation. i had a pc from velocity micro- it came with an >> > OEM >> > > version of xp 32 bit home. I bought the upgrade version of windows >> > vista >> > > home premium 32 bit. im at the point now where i realize that my 4gb >> > of >> > > ram is not being used in my 32 bit environment. so i ordered the 64 >> > bit >> > > alternative media disc from microsoft. >> > > >> > > my question is how to install this 64 bit disc. will i have >> > activation >> > > problems? do i have to install vista twice? do i really have to >> > > reinstall xp and will that cause problems? >> > > >> > > thanks x64 community! >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > sniper16 > > > > > -- > sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 7:47:44 PM |
| From: sniper16 [Email Address Protection] |
well xp was oem (32 bit). i bought the home premium upgrade (installed as 32 bit). the upgrade was from retail. i then ordered a 64 bit disk through the MS promotion. so how do i do it? Dean Browning;802006 Wrote: > It came pre-installed with 32bit. This is not OEM? > > -- > Dean > > > sniper16" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message > news:fff49b380a069e41c37a30f2349a07b5@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > > > > > > > well its not oem, its an upgrade. Dean Browning;801987 Wrote:> > > > > > > > >> Really, HP told me that I would need to by a full retail version of > > > >> 64bit. > > > >> They say that my cpu or mb will not take the 64bit OEM over the > > > 32bit > > > >> OEM > > > >> > > > >> Dean> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > sniper16 > > -- sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/11/2008 8:36:36 PM |
| From: DDW [Email Address Protection] |
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:38:18 -0500, sniper16 <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: >yes i realize the requirements. i meet all of them. i do have an e6600 >processor, which includes the emt64 instruction set. what i want to ask >is do i have to have xp installed because my vista license is an upgrade >license. Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit requires a clean install. C L E A N I N S T A L L. |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/12/2008 12:50:14 PM |
| From: sniper16 [Email Address Protection] |
how do i do a C L E A N I N S T A L L with the alternative media for vista home premium upgrade edition. is it possible? DDW;802049 Wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:38:18 -0500, sniper16 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >yes i realize the requirements. i meet all of them. i do have an e6600 > > >processor, which includes the emt64 instruction set. what i want to > > ask > > >is do i have to have xp installed because my vista license is an > > upgrade > > >license. > > > > Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit requires a clean install. > > C L E A N I N S T A L L. -- sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/12/2008 2:23:26 PM |
| From: "Curious" [Email Address Protection]> |
A clean install does not mean that you are not upgrading from an existing installation it just means that no part of the existing installation that you are upgrading on top of is being used as part of the "clean install". The files from the old installation are contained in a folder called Windows Old which you will see as part of the new Clean Installation. "sniper16" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:097b8259ed654bf671e7f2648708f1a9@nntp-gateway.com... > > how do i do a C L E A N I N S T A L L with the alternative media for > vista home premium upgrade edition. is it possible? > DDW;802049 Wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:38:18 -0500, sniper16 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > >yes i realize the requirements. i meet all of them. i do have an e6600 >> > >processor, which includes the emt64 instruction set. what i want to >> > ask >> > >is do i have to have xp installed because my vista license is an >> > upgrade >> > >license. > > >> >> Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit requires a clean install. >> >> C L E A N I N S T A L L. > > > -- > sniper16 |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/12/2008 2:37:46 PM |
| From: DDW [Email Address Protection] |
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:50:14 -0500, sniper16 <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: >how do i do a C L E A N I N S T A L L with the alternative media for >vista home premium upgrade edition. is it possible? Yes. http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 8/12/2008 2:39:16 PM |
| From: DDW [Email Address Protection] |
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:23:26 -0700, "Curious" <<spammenot@nomail.com>> wrote: >A clean install does not mean that you are not upgrading from an existing >installation it just means that no part of the existing installation that >you are upgrading on top of is being used as part of the "clean install". >The files from the old installation are contained in a folder called Windows >Old which you will see as part of the new Clean Installation. I don't think that's right. A clean install is accomplished by booting to the media - it wipes everything and starts afresh. Nothing is saved. What you are describing is actually what happens when one does an upgrade and starts the process from within Vista. |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 11/9/2008 11:48:55 AM |
| From: Donald L McDaniel [Email Address Protection] |
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:47:44 -0500, sniper16 <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: > >well xp was oem (32 bit). i bought the home premium upgrade (installed >as 32 bit). the upgrade was from retail. i then ordered a 64 bit disk >through the MS promotion. so how do i do it? Dean Browning;802006 Wrote: >> It came pre-installed with 32bit. This is not OEM? >> >> -- >> Dean >> >> >> sniper16" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message >> news:fff49b380a069e41c37a30f2349a07b5@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > >> > > >> > > well its not oem, its an upgrade. Dean Browning;801987 Wrote:> > > > > >> > > >> Really, HP told me that I would need to by a full retail version of >> > > >> 64bit. >> > > >> They say that my cpu or mb will not take the 64bit OEM over the >> > > 32bit >> > > >> OEM >> > > >> >> > > >> Dean> > > > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > sniper16 > > sniper16, since the 64bit edition of Vista MUST be installed "clean", (it CAN'T be installed as an UPGRADE!!!) the 64bit disk you received from MIcrosoft is NOT a Retail Upgrade edition. From what Ive seen, just stick the disk in the drive, recycle your machine's power and boot to the installation program, choosing "NEW installation" at the appropriate time. "Upgrade" will be diabled. NOTE: 64bit CANNOT BE INSTALLED AS AN UPGRADE. PERIOD. Obviously, Microsoft did not send you an UPGRADE disk, since none exists for Vista 64bit. PLEASE stop confusing yourself, and just READ what we are trying to tell you. -- Donald L McDaniel Please reply to the original thread and article. ======================================== |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 11/9/2008 1:18:28 PM |
| From: "Curious" [Email Address Protection] |
I think there is confusion here between trying to upgrade a 32 bit installation to a 64 bit installation without loosing any application programs, settings, and data. which can not be done and the use of an Retail purchased upgrade kit/key to upgrade an XP or other qualifying OS installation to vista 64 which then installs as a clean install. "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.com> wrote in message news:2gbeh4l154d2rvaks70q9o57ef84sfjt1p@4ax.com... > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:47:44 -0500, sniper16 <guest@unknown-email.com> > wrote: > >> >>well xp was oem (32 bit). i bought the home premium upgrade (installed >>as 32 bit). the upgrade was from retail. i then ordered a 64 bit disk >>through the MS promotion. so how do i do it? Dean Browning;802006 Wrote: >>> It came pre-installed with 32bit. This is not OEM? >>> >>> -- >>> Dean >>> >>> >>> sniper16" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message >>> news:fff49b380a069e41c37a30f2349a07b5@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > >>> > > >>> > > well its not oem, its an upgrade. Dean Browning;801987 Wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> Really, HP told me that I would need to by a full retail version >>> > > >> of >>> > > >> 64bit. >>> > > >> They say that my cpu or mb will not take the 64bit OEM over the >>> > > 32bit >>> > > >> OEM >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Dean> > > > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > sniper16 > > > > sniper16, since the 64bit edition of Vista MUST be installed "clean", > (it CAN'T be installed as an UPGRADE!!!) the 64bit disk you received > from MIcrosoft is NOT a Retail Upgrade edition. > > From what Ive seen, just stick the disk in the drive, recycle your > machine's power and boot to the installation program, choosing "NEW > installation" at the appropriate time. "Upgrade" will be diabled. > > NOTE: > > 64bit CANNOT BE INSTALLED AS AN UPGRADE. PERIOD. > Obviously, Microsoft did not send you an UPGRADE disk, since none > exists for Vista 64bit. > > PLEASE stop confusing yourself, and just READ what we are trying to > tell you. > > -- > > Donald L McDaniel > Please reply to the original thread and article. > ======================================== |
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| Subject: Re: vista 64 bit / 32 bit confusion please urgent help needed. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 11/9/2008 12:27:37 PM |
| From: "Mark H" [Email Address Protection] |
Donald, All Vista installation DVDs are "Full Retail" versions which come in either 32-bit or 64-bit. The product key determines whether it is an upgrade, OEM, or full retail. Initial installation of 64-bit requires a clean installation, but subsequent installations may be upgrades: e.g. Home Premium x64 to Ultimate x64 The upgrade product key will perform the same upgrade on 32-bit or 64-bit assuming the current installation matches bitness with one exception: 64-bit will only upgrade 64-bit Vista. "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.com> wrote in message news:2gbeh4l154d2rvaks70q9o57ef84sfjt1p@4ax.com... > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:47:44 -0500, sniper16 <guest@unknown-email.com> > wrote: > >> >>well xp was oem (32 bit). i bought the home premium upgrade (installed >>as 32 bit). the upgrade was from retail. i then ordered a 64 bit disk >>through the MS promotion. so how do i do it? Dean Browning;802006 Wrote: >>> It came pre-installed with 32bit. This is not OEM? >>> >>> -- >>> Dean >>> >>> >>> sniper16" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message >>> news:fff49b380a069e41c37a30f2349a07b5@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > >>> > > >>> > > well its not oem, its an upgrade. Dean Browning;801987 Wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> Really, HP told me that I would need to by a full retail version >>> > > >> of >>> > > >> 64bit. >>> > > >> They say that my cpu or mb will not take the 64bit OEM over the >>> > > 32bit >>> > > >> OEM >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Dean> > > > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > sniper16 > > > > sniper16, since the 64bit edition of Vista MUST be installed "clean", > (it CAN'T be installed as an UPGRADE!!!) the 64bit disk you received > from MIcrosoft is NOT a Retail Upgrade edition. > > From what Ive seen, just stick the disk in the drive, recycle your > machine's power and boot to the installation program, choosing "NEW > installation" at the appropriate time. "Upgrade" will be diabled. > > NOTE: > > 64bit CANNOT BE INSTALLED AS AN UPGRADE. PERIOD. > Obviously, Microsoft did not send you an UPGRADE disk, since none > exists for Vista 64bit. > > PLEASE stop confusing yourself, and just READ what we are trying to > tell you. > > -- > > Donald L McDaniel > Please reply to the original thread and article. > ======================================== |
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