| Subject: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/21/2008 2:35:10 PM |
| From: "Leon_Amirreza" [Email Address Protection] |
Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better place to post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my power supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can short circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may cause power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term solution. what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/21/2008 4:38:26 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
"Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OIP0ym36IHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better > place to > post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): > > when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my power > supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! > > any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can short > circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may cause > power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term > solution. > > what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? You didn't say what the power supply is. Have you checked on the mfg's website for information? Is this a brand name computer? |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/21/2008 4:48:03 PM |
| From: "Dave T." [Email Address Protection] |
Leon_Amirreza wrote: > Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better > place to > post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): > > when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my power > supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! > > any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can short > circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may cause > power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term > solution. > > what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? More info needed...does your tester have a battery in it? If it has a battery in it, you are checking continuity and the screwdriver should light up. If your tester is the type without a battery, then you are checking for voltage. See, 2 different tests depending on what kind of tester you are using. -- Dave T. I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/21/2008 10:34:28 PM |
| From: "Leon_Amirreza" [Email Address Protection] |
Hi, Its without the battery! "Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote in message news:6g9hk.5533$np7.410@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com... > Leon_Amirreza wrote: >> Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better >> place to >> post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): >> >> when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my power >> supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! >> >> any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can short >> circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may cause >> power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term >> solution. >> >> what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? > > More info needed...does your tester have a battery in it? If it has a > battery in it, you are checking continuity and the screwdriver should > light up. If your tester is the type without a battery, then you are > checking for voltage. See, 2 different tests depending on what kind of > tester you are using. > > -- > Dave T. > > I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/21/2008 10:34:53 PM |
| From: "Leon_Amirreza" [Email Address Protection] |
Its not a brand computer its assembled by my self! "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8B11C038-9B89-4EFA-9FFE-94FCF929EAE1@microsoft.com... > "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OIP0ym36IHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better >> place to >> post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): >> >> when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my power >> supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! >> >> any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can short >> circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may cause >> power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term >> solution. >> >> what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? > > You didn't say what the power supply is. Have you checked on the mfg's > website for information? Is this a brand name computer? |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/21/2008 10:41:26 PM |
| From: "Leon_Amirreza" [Email Address Protection] |
ATX GPX green 380A "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8B11C038-9B89-4EFA-9FFE-94FCF929EAE1@microsoft.com... > "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OIP0ym36IHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better >> place to >> post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): >> >> when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my power >> supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! >> >> any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can short >> circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may cause >> power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term >> solution. >> >> what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? > > You didn't say what the power supply is. Have you checked on the mfg's > website for information? Is this a brand name computer? |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/21/2008 10:51:47 PM |
| From: "Leon_Amirreza" [Email Address Protection] |
I contacted the manufacturer support they said this: 1- Its the power that induced by circuits inside the power supply (not a short circuit) and its not above 200mA and can be solved by proper grounding. I know my power supply is not properly grounded cause i disconnected the ground wire BUT does this statement by the support personnel sounds logical to a circuit engineer OR ARE THEY WHITE WASHING A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THEIR PRODUCT? any comments would be appriciated. "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8B11C038-9B89-4EFA-9FFE-94FCF929EAE1@microsoft.com... > "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OIP0ym36IHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better >> place to >> post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): >> >> when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my power >> supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! >> >> any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can short >> circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may cause >> power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term >> solution. >> >> what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? > > You didn't say what the power supply is. Have you checked on the mfg's > website for information? Is this a brand name computer? |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/22/2008 3:28:52 AM |
| From: Nonny [Email Address Protection] |
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:21:47 +0330, "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote: >I know my power supply is not properly grounded cause i disconnected the >ground wire Which means that you are a moron and that you are taking up everyone's time unnecessarily. |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/22/2008 4:47:53 AM |
| From: "Leon_Amirreza" [Email Address Protection] |
Sorry But Have u ever seen a electrical device that its metal cover lights the continuity Tester!? Have you? (for example) does yur SAT reciever metal cover lights the tester? why SAT reciever inside power supply doesnt have this effect? or TV or ....? "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:0idb8490ke6361rbiukruqfd2vbm9ie0og@4ax.com... > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:21:47 +0330, "Leon_Amirreza" > <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>I know my power supply is not properly grounded cause i disconnected the >>ground wire > > Which means that you are a moron and that you are taking up everyone's > time unnecessarily. |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/22/2008 5:15:42 AM |
| From: "Mike Hall - MVP" [Email Address Protection] |
"Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ejlamx96IHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I contacted the manufacturer support they said this: > > 1- Its the power that induced by circuits inside the power supply (not a > short circuit) and its not above 200mA and can be solved by proper > grounding. > > I know my power supply is not properly grounded cause i disconnected the > ground wire BUT > does this statement by the support personnel sounds logical to a circuit > engineer > > OR ARE THEY WHITE WASHING A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THEIR PRODUCT? > > any comments would be appriciated. > > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8B11C038-9B89-4EFA-9FFE-94FCF929EAE1@microsoft.com... >> "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OIP0ym36IHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better >>> place to >>> post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): >>> >>> when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my >>> power >>> supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! >>> >>> any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can >>> short >>> circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may >>> cause >>> power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term >>> solution. >>> >>> what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? >> >> You didn't say what the power supply is. Have you checked on the mfg's >> website for information? Is this a brand name computer? > Connect the ground wire back up, install the power supply into the computer, and then come back here when you actually have a problem with the computer.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/22/2008 5:38:15 AM |
| From: Nonny [Email Address Protection] |
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:17:53 +0330, "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote: >Sorry But >Have u ever seen a electrical device that its metal cover lights the >continuity Tester!? >Have you? You're a moron. > >(for example) does yur SAT reciever metal cover lights the tester? why SAT >reciever inside power supply doesnt have this effect? or TV or ....? > >"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:0idb8490ke6361rbiukruqfd2vbm9ie0og@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:21:47 +0330, "Leon_Amirreza" >> <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>I know my power supply is not properly grounded cause i disconnected the >>>ground wire >> >> Which means that you are a moron and that you are taking up everyone's >> time unnecessarily. |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/22/2008 8:53:12 AM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
"Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ejlamx96IHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I contacted the manufacturer support they said this: > > 1- Its the power that induced by circuits inside the power supply (not a > short circuit) and its not above 200mA and can be solved by proper > grounding. > > I know my power supply is not properly grounded cause i disconnected the > ground wire BUT > does this statement by the support personnel sounds logical to a circuit > engineer > > OR ARE THEY WHITE WASHING A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THEIR PRODUCT? > > any comments would be appriciated. > > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8B11C038-9B89-4EFA-9FFE-94FCF929EAE1@microsoft.com... >> "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OIP0ym36IHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any better >>> place to >>> post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): >>> >>> when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my >>> power >>> supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! >>> >>> any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can >>> short >>> circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may >>> cause >>> power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term >>> solution. >>> >>> what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? >> >> You didn't say what the power supply is. Have you checked on the mfg's >> website for information? Is this a brand name computer? > If it were a serious problem you computer would not be working. Ground the damn thing like you're supposed to and move on. It is nothing more than a field effect. |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/22/2008 11:13:16 AM |
| From: "Peter Foldes" [Email Address Protection] |
> Have u ever seen a electrical device that its metal cover lights the > continuity Tester!? > Have you? Yes I did. As a former electrician I can tell you that this is normal if = the Power supplies supply (Electricity) is not grounded. Ground the damm = PS as it is supposed to be and get on with your life --=20 Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message = news:u8ZoKD$6IHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/22/2008 11:49:18 AM |
| From: Hobo [Email Address Protection] |
Leon_Amirreza wrote: > I contacted the manufacturer support they said this: > > 1- Its the power that induced by circuits inside the power supply (not a > short circuit) and its not above 200mA and can be solved by proper > grounding. > > I know my power supply is not properly grounded cause i disconnected the > ground wire BUT > does this statement by the support personnel sounds logical to a circuit > engineer > > OR ARE THEY WHITE WASHING A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THEIR PRODUCT? > > any comments would be appriciated. > Yes! Considering that you have eliminated proper grounding, that explanations sounds entirely accurate. Have an electrician restore a proper ground connection, and further, as a safety concern, I would suggest you not plug in that system until it is repaired! > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:8B11C038-9B89-4EFA-9FFE-94FCF929EAE1@microsoft.com... >> "Leon_Amirreza" <r_rahmaty@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OIP0ym36IHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, I know this may not be related to Vista but did not know any >>> better place to >>> post my question (More appropriate weblogs and links are appriciated): >>> >>> when I turn on the computer test the chasis (the metal cover) of my >>> power >>> supply with a Continuity Tester suprisingly the screwdriver lights! >>> >>> any clues whats the problem and how should I avoid it? I know i can >>> short >>> circuit the case to ground to protected users from shock but it may >>> cause >>> power leakege (and more energy consumption) and its not a long term >>> solution. >>> >>> what should I do to detect to problem and solve it!? >> >> You didn't say what the power supply is. Have you checked on the >> mfg's website for information? Is this a brand name computer? > |
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| Subject: Re: Power Supply Problem!? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices |
| Date: 7/22/2008 4:43:45 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
"Hobo" <Hobo@nospam.com> wrote in message news:eOKdnRsbRpXbthvVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@giganews.com... > > > Leon_Amirreza wrote: >> I contacted the manufacturer support they said this: >> >> 1- Its the power that induced by circuits inside the power supply (not a >> short circuit) and its not above 200mA and can be solved by proper >> grounding. >> >> I know my power supply is not properly grounded cause i disconnected the >> ground wire BUT >> does this statement by the support personnel sounds logical to a circuit >> engineer >> >> OR ARE THEY WHITE WASHING A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THEIR PRODUCT? >> >> any comments would be appriciated. >> > > > Yes! Considering that you have eliminated proper grounding, that > explanations sounds entirely accurate. Have an electrician restore a > proper ground connection, and further, as a safety concern, I would > suggest you not plug in that system until it is repaired! > Or buy one helluva static mat! :) |
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