| Subject: windows journal vs one notes |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc |
| Date: 7/14/2008 11:41:01 AM |
| From: =?Utf-8?B?Z29zYWluX3NhbmpheQ==?= [Email Address Protection] |
I was planning to use one notes, so i tried its 90 day trial works great, but then i saw windows journal. True its not as elabrate but what would be the the requirement line whre one should swith from journal to one note. One note is not part of ms office std, student eddition does not have outlook (realy a must) so some one state merits of boath journal Vs one notes. -- |
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| Subject: Re: windows journal vs one notes |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc |
| Date: 7/14/2008 12:57:41 PM |
| From: Invalid [Email Address Protection] |
In message <71B4C02E-DD9A-430E-845C-037D43D4A56C@microsoft.com>, gosain_sanjay <gosainsanjay@discussions.microsoft.com> writes >I was planning to use one notes, so i tried its 90 day trial works great, but >then i saw windows journal. >True its not as elabrate but what would be the the requirement line whre one >should swith from journal to one note. >One note is not part of ms office std, student eddition does not have >outlook (realy a must) so some one state merits of boath journal Vs one notes. You pay your money and take your choice. I have both on my tablet. I don't use One Note (as you will see) One note is an infinitely flexible ring binder with dividers, paper and everything - its like owning a 21st century filofax. Journal on the other hand is like a 21st century scratch pad, lots of sheets of paper and multicoloured pens. 1) One-Note implements a "tabbed notebook" - extremely well. 2) It allows all (many?) forms of documents to be filed together. 3) It allows ink hand-written notes to be searched. On the other hand 1) One-Note implements a "tabbed notebook" - I don't get on with that paradigm. 2) I have never understood the logic of implementing another document filing system on top of the perfectly good windows filing system. I simply give my documents useful names and file them in folders rather than putting them in folders inside one note. With shortcuts I can effectively put the same document in multiple folders. I can also include non-document things like .exe files and data structures for other programs (Statistical analysis, CAD etc.) in MY folders when necessary. 3)I loose the ability to search hand-written notes. But as I can't read my own handwriting anyway I find it better to convert hand-written notes to text as soon as possible after taking them. I only keep diagrams in hand-written form. Windows will index and search my transcribed documents if necessary. Journal is simply a notepad. I write on the pages and either transcribe them (text recognition followed by cut and paste to a text document), throw them away, or file them (if they have sketches and diagrams I want to keep) under a suitable name in the right folder(s). My main use for it is as a sketchpad when holding discussions with people - drawing diagrams etc., or doodling when bored in meetings. Most of those I throw away when the discussion is over as I would a sheet off a scratch pad In my view it's not a question of a breakpoint where one switches from one to the other - they are different approaches to using a Tablet. If you are the organized, disciplined type who keeps work in a ring binder, in date order, owns a filofax and makes lists of things to do each morning then you will probably choose to use One-Note and really really like it. You will never have more than 8-10 projects on the go at once and your motto will be "never put off till tomorrow something you can do today in case something comes up tomorrow that will stop you doing it" If you are the kind of disorganized person who keeps work in lots of different "heaps", does work in reactive fashion as and when it is needed, and uses mind mapping as a sorting technique you will probably dislike One Note . You will have 100 different projects on the go at once and you motto is "never do today something that can be postponed till tomorrow - it might never be necessary so why waste time on it" Hope this helps. I've had a bad day writing up my thesis!!! -- Peter R Cook |
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| Subject: Re: windows journal vs one notes |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc |
| Date: 7/19/2008 7:17:43 AM |
| From: cwb3106 [Email Address Protection] |
FWIW, you can search handwritten notes in Journal. You can even search across Journal files. Journal and OneNote share the same inking library that recognizes handwriting as it is written. The stored "ink" contains and links both the original pen strokes and the recognized text Besides the tabbed interface, OneNote treats inserted items differently than Journal. Journal integrates pasted information into the Journal page as if it had be created there. OneNote creates a container -- kind of like a Word Text box -- for each insert. The container has metadata like a date time stamp. Containers can be easily dragged or copied to other places on a page or other pages. Reminds me of a scrapbook. The contents of a container can still be edited and containers can be joined, so you don't have to keep inserted information separated. OneNote also offers integration with a other programs. For example, if you drag text from a browser onto a OneNote page, the inserted information will automatically be tagged with the URL of the source (works with Internet Explorer and Firefox and perhaps other browsers). Similarly, you can "send to OneNote" Outlook items such as email and appointments. The inserted text is tagged with the metadata from Outlook (works with Outlook 2003 and later). OneNote allows you apply special flags (e.g., "to do") to notes. Then you can create a virtual tab that includes all of the notes with a particular flag. This tab is actually a search result, not a copy. A change you make in either location is reflected in the other. Wonderful for capturing action items in meeting notes. OneNote can capture an audio (or video) stream and sync it to text notes (handwritten or keyed). For example, you could record a presentation and take notes. Later, you can select a note and play the part of the audio stream that was captured at the same time. Potentially the biggest difference is that OneNote is considered to be a product by Microsoft and is being actively developed. Journal is considered to be an applet like Notepad and will receive minimal updates and improvements. |
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| Subject: Re: windows journal vs one notes |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc |
| Date: 7/19/2008 7:05:11 AM |
| From: cwb3106 [Email Address Protection] |
FWIW, you can search handwritten notes in Journal. You can even search across Journal files. Journal and OneNote share the same inking library that recognizes handwriting as it is written. The stored "ink" contains and links both the original pen strokes and the recognized text Besides the tabbed interface, OneNote treats inserted items differently than Journal. Journal integrates pasted information into the Journal page as if it had be created there. OneNote creates a container -- kind of like a Word Text box -- for each insert. The container has metadata like a date time stamp. Containers can be easily dragged or copied to other places on a page or other pages. Reminds me of a scrapbook. The contents of a container can still be edited and containers can be joined, so you don't have to keep inserted information separated. OneNote also offers integration with a other programs. For example, if you drag text from a browser onto a OneNote page, the inserted information will automatically be tagged with the URL of the source (works with Internet Explorer and Firefox and perhaps other browsers). Similarly, you can "send to OneNote" Outlook items such as email and appointments. The inserted text is tagged with the metadata from Outlook (works with Outlook 2003 and later). OneNote allows you apply special flags (e.g., "to do") to notes. Then you can create a virtual tab that includes all of the notes with a particular flag. This tab is actually a search result, not a copy. A change you make in either location is reflected in the other. Wonderful for capturing action items in meeting notes. OneNote can capture an audio (or video) stream and sync it to text notes (handwritten or keyed). For example, you could record a presentation and take notes. Later, you can select a note and play the part of the audio stream that was captured at the same time. Potentially the biggest difference is that OneNote is considered to be a product by Microsoft and is being actively developed. Journal is considered to be an applet like Notepad and will receive minimal updates and improvements. |
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