| Subject: No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/6/2008 1:23:14 PM |
| From: XS11E [Email Address Protection] |
Vista Ultimate 64 SP1 on ASUS M2A-VM with Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 2 GB memory (was 4 GB but finally had to remove 2 GB to prevent constant weird failures.) I inadvertently hit the "Sleep" button on my keyboard (I *K*N*O*W* I should have disabled it!) and had the usual problems getting the PC to awake, it did wake up but failed to install a USB Printer and also failed to install my mouse software so..... I rebooted and... had a bunch of grief, the machine just refused to boot. I got the little green indicator which would freeze, the screen went black and only power off worked. OK, BTDT before, I know how to fix it, boot into safe mode, open Device Manager and delete Hauppauge WINTV 1600, reboot and all is well except.... oops.... can't re-install Hauppauge card, different errors so... Why not just do a system restore? Because "System Restore is turned off" and all restore points are gone! WTF? BTW, USP printer and USB mouse install properly on first reboot. I'll somehow get the Hauppauge card to install or I'll restore an Acronis Image but... WTF turned off System Restore and lost all my restore points? I don't dual boot, only one OS is installed. |
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| Subject: Re: No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/6/2008 6:05:17 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AD3882EA3C7Bxs11emailinatorcom@127.0.0.1... > > Vista Ultimate 64 SP1 on ASUS M2A-VM with Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 2 GB > memory (was 4 GB but finally had to remove 2 GB to prevent constant > weird failures.) > > I inadvertently hit the "Sleep" button on my keyboard (I *K*N*O*W* I > should have disabled it!) and had the usual problems getting the PC to > awake, it did wake up but failed to install a USB Printer and also > failed to install my mouse software so..... > > I rebooted and... had a bunch of grief, the machine just refused to > boot. I got the little green indicator which would freeze, the screen > went black and only power off worked. > > OK, BTDT before, I know how to fix it, boot into safe mode, open Device > Manager and delete Hauppauge WINTV 1600, reboot and all is well > except.... oops.... can't re-install Hauppauge card, different errors > so... > > Why not just do a system restore? Because "System Restore is turned > off" and all restore points are gone! WTF? > > BTW, USP printer and USB mouse install properly on first reboot. > > I'll somehow get the Hauppauge card to install or I'll restore an > Acronis Image but... WTF turned off System Restore and lost all my > restore points? I don't dual boot, only one OS is installed. > Are you dual booting with XP? If so XP is destroying your restore points every time you boot into XP. See: |
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| Subject: Re: No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/6/2008 6:06:21 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AD3882EA3C7Bxs11emailinatorcom@127.0.0.1... > > Vista Ultimate 64 SP1 on ASUS M2A-VM with Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 2 GB > memory (was 4 GB but finally had to remove 2 GB to prevent constant > weird failures.) > > I inadvertently hit the "Sleep" button on my keyboard (I *K*N*O*W* I > should have disabled it!) and had the usual problems getting the PC to > awake, it did wake up but failed to install a USB Printer and also > failed to install my mouse software so..... > > I rebooted and... had a bunch of grief, the machine just refused to > boot. I got the little green indicator which would freeze, the screen > went black and only power off worked. > > OK, BTDT before, I know how to fix it, boot into safe mode, open Device > Manager and delete Hauppauge WINTV 1600, reboot and all is well > except.... oops.... can't re-install Hauppauge card, different errors > so... > > Why not just do a system restore? Because "System Restore is turned > off" and all restore points are gone! WTF? > > BTW, USP printer and USB mouse install properly on first reboot. > > I'll somehow get the Hauppauge card to install or I'll restore an > Acronis Image but... WTF turned off System Restore and lost all my > restore points? I don't dual boot, only one OS is installed. > Sorry, here is the link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185 |
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| Subject: Re: No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/7/2008 6:09:36 AM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AD3882EA3C7Bxs11emailinatorcom@127.0.0.1... > > Vista Ultimate 64 SP1 on ASUS M2A-VM with Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 2 GB > memory (was 4 GB but finally had to remove 2 GB to prevent constant > weird failures.) > > I inadvertently hit the "Sleep" button on my keyboard (I *K*N*O*W* I > should have disabled it!) and had the usual problems getting the PC to > awake, it did wake up but failed to install a USB Printer and also > failed to install my mouse software so..... > > I rebooted and... had a bunch of grief, the machine just refused to > boot. I got the little green indicator which would freeze, the screen > went black and only power off worked. > > OK, BTDT before, I know how to fix it, boot into safe mode, open Device > Manager and delete Hauppauge WINTV 1600, reboot and all is well > except.... oops.... can't re-install Hauppauge card, different errors > so... > > Why not just do a system restore? Because "System Restore is turned > off" and all restore points are gone! WTF? > > BTW, USP printer and USB mouse install properly on first reboot. > > I'll somehow get the Hauppauge card to install or I'll restore an > Acronis Image but... WTF turned off System Restore and lost all my > restore points? I don't dual boot, only one OS is installed. > How much free space is on the hard drive? |
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| Subject: Re: No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/7/2008 11:04:02 AM |
| From: XS11E [Email Address Protection] |
"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote: > "XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9AD3882EA3C7Bxs11emailinatorcom@127.0.0.1... >> >> Vista Ultimate 64 SP1 on ASUS M2A-VM with Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 2 >> GB memory (was 4 GB but finally had to remove 2 GB to prevent >> constant weird failures.) >> >> I inadvertently hit the "Sleep" button on my keyboard (I >> *K*N*O*W* I should have disabled it!) and had the usual problems >> getting the PC to awake, it did wake up but failed to install a >> USB Printer and also failed to install my mouse software so..... >> >> I rebooted and... had a bunch of grief, the machine just refused >> to boot. I got the little green indicator which would freeze, >> the screen went black and only power off worked. >> >> OK, BTDT before, I know how to fix it, boot into safe mode, open >> Device Manager and delete Hauppauge WINTV 1600, reboot and all is >> well except.... oops.... can't re-install Hauppauge card, >> different errors so... >> >> Why not just do a system restore? Because "System Restore is >> turned off" and all restore points are gone! WTF? >> >> BTW, USP printer and USB mouse install properly on first reboot. >> >> I'll somehow get the Hauppauge card to install or I'll restore an >> Acronis Image but... WTF turned off System Restore and lost all >> my restore points? I don't dual boot, only one OS is installed. >> > > > How much free space is on the hard drive? Around 60 G. |
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| Subject: RE: No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/7/2008 11:05:14 AM |
| From: XS11E [Email Address Protection] |
Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Those constant weird failures when 4 GB are present can be patched > by reducing memory speed from 800 MHz to 667 MHz. Much easier to pull 2 GB, I don't need more than that and I can use the other 2GB elsewhere. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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| Subject: New problem, was: No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/7/2008 11:18:47 AM |
| From: XS11E [Email Address Protection] |
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote: > I rebooted and... had a bunch of grief, the machine just refused > to boot. I got the little green indicator which would freeze, the > screen went black and only power off worked. > > OK, BTDT before, I know how to fix it, boot into safe mode, open > Device Manager and delete Hauppauge WINTV 1600, reboot and all is > well except.... oops.... can't re-install Hauppauge card, > different errors so... The Hauppauge card defied re-installation of the drivers. I decided to drop back and punt so... re-installed the original HP motherboard, did a system restore to the original Vista Home 32 bit, Hauppauge card installed perfectly! Then, Windows Update installed a bunch of updates, PC wouldn't boot, finally did, the card had NO drivers installed and even the latest drivers from Hauppauge won't install, screen goes black or computer locks up. So. It doesn't matter if I'm running 32 or 64 bit, doesn't matter which MB (the HP uses an nVidia chip set, the ASUS uses an ATI chipset) Microsoft has an update that just kills the Hauppauge card! Any ideas before I have to remove each update one by one to see which it is? -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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| Subject: Re: New problem, was: No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/7/2008 2:14:43 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AD47315461EDxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1... > > The Hauppauge card defied re-installation of the drivers. I decided to > drop back and punt so... re-installed the original HP motherboard, did > a system restore to the original Vista Home 32 bit, Hauppauge card > installed perfectly! > > Then, Windows Update installed a bunch of updates, PC wouldn't boot, > finally did, the card had NO drivers installed and even the latest > drivers from Hauppauge won't install, screen goes black or computer > locks up. > > So. It doesn't matter if I'm running 32 or 64 bit, doesn't matter > which MB (the HP uses an nVidia chip set, the ASUS uses an ATI chipset) > Microsoft has an update that just kills the Hauppauge card! > > Any ideas before I have to remove each update one by one to see which > it is? > > > > > -- > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups > The Usenet Improvement Project: > http://improve-usenet.org What a PITA! |
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| Subject: Fixed, was No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/8/2008 8:08:18 PM |
| From: XS11E [Email Address Protection] |
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote: > Why not just do a system restore? Because "System Restore is > turned off" and all restore points are gone! WTF? OK, it's fixed. After swapping the MB back to the original HP board and doing a recovery I had failures of the Hauppauge card in Vista 32 as well so... I put the good ASUS MB back in and restored Vista 64 Ultimate from an Acronis Image. I checked restore points and found that apparently Acronis doesn't turn on system restore? It's on now but that explains why my restore points were gone, they were never there, the previous Vista Ultimate 64 was also an Acronis restore! Since the image was made before the MSFT updates, the Hauppauge card worked fine, the updates that I got today were new ones, different from the ones that I installed before so maybe MSFT fixed the problem? Anyway, the system is working now, I can watch TV on my computer and I'll be quick to remove any updates if I have any additional problems. Just thought I'd let you know.... -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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| Subject: Re: Fixed, was No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/9/2008 3:40:50 AM |
| From: Bobby Johnson [Email Address Protection] |
Acronis doesn't do anything with the state of your system restore. It makes an image of whatever is there at the time. If system restore is on Acronis leaves it on. If system restore is off Acronis leaves it off. XS11E wrote: > XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote: > >> Why not just do a system restore? Because "System Restore is >> turned off" and all restore points are gone! WTF? > > OK, it's fixed. After swapping the MB back to the original HP board > and doing a recovery I had failures of the Hauppauge card in Vista 32 > as well so... I put the good ASUS MB back in and restored Vista 64 > Ultimate from an Acronis Image. I checked restore points and found > that apparently Acronis doesn't turn on system restore? It's on now > but that explains why my restore points were gone, they were never > there, the previous Vista Ultimate 64 was also an Acronis restore! > > Since the image was made before the MSFT updates, the Hauppauge card > worked fine, the updates that I got today were new ones, different from > the ones that I installed before so maybe MSFT fixed the problem? > Anyway, the system is working now, I can watch TV on my computer and > I'll be quick to remove any updates if I have any additional problems. > > Just thought I'd let you know.... > > > |
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| Subject: Re: Fixed, was No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/9/2008 9:51:54 AM |
| From: XS11E [Email Address Protection] |
Bobby Johnson <rjohnson@aol.NOSPAM.com> wrote: > Acronis doesn't do anything with the state of your system > restore. It makes an image of whatever is there at the > time. If system restore is on Acronis leaves it on. If > system restore is off Acronis leaves it off. That's what I thought, obviously I was wrong... -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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| Subject: Re: Fixed, was No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/9/2008 9:56:53 AM |
| From: Bobby Johnson [Email Address Protection] |
I have been using Acronis for over 2 years and to date it has never altered my system restore settings. The images have always had the same settings as the original. So, I seriously doubt Acronis is altering your settings either. XS11E wrote: > Bobby Johnson <rjohnson@aol.NOSPAM.com> wrote: > >> Acronis doesn't do anything with the state of your system >> restore. It makes an image of whatever is there at the >> time. If system restore is on Acronis leaves it on. If >> system restore is off Acronis leaves it off. > > That's what I thought, obviously I was wrong... > |
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| Subject: Re: Fixed, was No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/11/2008 2:40:32 AM |
| From: Bobby Johnson [Email Address Protection] |
And you haven't replicated the symptom in a controlled environment. You made an assumption which doesn't prove anything! If you start crying 'the sky is falling' then everyone is supposed to believe you and take your word for it? XS11E wrote: > Bobby Johnson <rjohnson@aol.NOSPAM.com> wrote: > >> But, you really haven't proven anything; you have only made an >> assumption without any hard evidence to substantiate your >> assumption. > > You've not been paying attention, have you? > |
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| Subject: Re: Fixed, was No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/11/2008 8:34:34 AM |
| From: XS11E [Email Address Protection] |
Bobby Johnson <rjohnson@aol.NOSPAM.com> wrote: > And you haven't replicated the symptom in a controlled > environment. You made an assumption which doesn't prove > anything! I've made no assumption, I'd established sufficient proof of what I've said. What you believe is of no consequence to anyone. End of conversation, go demonstrate your lack of reading skills and comprehension elsewhere, OK? -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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| Subject: Re: Fixed, was No restore points? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 7/11/2008 10:02:28 AM |
| From: Bobby Johnson [Email Address Protection] |
As I stated before, you have not proved anything! XS11E wrote: > Bobby Johnson <rjohnson@aol.NOSPAM.com> wrote: > >> And you haven't replicated the symptom in a controlled >> environment. You made an assumption which doesn't prove >> anything! > > I've made no assumption, I'd established sufficient proof of what I've > said. What you believe is of no consequence to anyone. > > End of conversation, go demonstrate your lack of reading skills and > comprehension elsewhere, OK? > > |
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