| Subject: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 8:46:53 PM |
| From: "Tuttle" [Email Address Protection] |
Hello all: Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is the size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them include the following statement: "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you may want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves on the hard drive? Thanks |
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| Subject: Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 2:57:53 AM |
| From: "Richard G. Harper" [Email Address Protection] |
It is a case of sloppy journalism - yes, the statement is true so far as "resources" can include disk space. However, the more common use does not include disk space but (as you indicate) when folks say "resources" they usually mean memory or CPU time or such. Using the more common meaning of "resources" the answer is no. When the system is in hibernation it is powered down and when it is resumed from hibernation it is running as it always is. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/ * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/ "Tuttle" <nospamhere@notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote in message news:Oy5PbiY3IHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hello all: > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is > the > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them > include the following statement: > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you > may > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > reserves on the hard drive? > > Thanks > > > |
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| Subject: Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 3:18:06 AM |
| From: "Censored Syndrome" [Email Address Protection] |
"Tuttle" <nospamhere@notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote in message news:Oy5PbiY3IHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hello all: > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is > the > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them > include the following statement: > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you > may > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > reserves on the hard drive? Anybody can write a load of rubbish on a website. Here's an example of complete technical ineptitude! www.kkomp.com ss. |
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| Subject: Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 8:43:53 AM |
| From: "Tuttle" [Email Address Protection] |
Thank you Richard. I'm glad to hear someone knowledgeable confirm what I suspected. Is Hibernate considered generally reliable? I've read reports of some services not working properly after awaking from Hibernate. I myself saw some application hangs after awaking from Hibernate, but they could of course have been caused by something other than Hibernate. "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message news:uItJuxb3IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > It is a case of sloppy journalism - yes, the statement is true so far as > "resources" can include disk space. However, the more common use does not > include disk space but (as you indicate) when folks say "resources" they > usually mean memory or CPU time or such. Using the more common meaning of > "resources" the answer is no. When the system is in hibernation it is > powered down and when it is resumed from hibernation it is running as it > always is. > > -- > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com > * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/ > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > > > "Tuttle" <nospamhere@notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote in message > news:Oy5PbiY3IHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > Hello all: > > > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves > > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is > > the > > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them > > include the following statement: > > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system > > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you > > may > > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > > reserves on the hard drive? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > |
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| Subject: Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 2:25:13 PM |
| From: "Richard G. Harper" [Email Address Protection] |
I always hibernate my laptop before moving it (at least twice a day, once in the morning and once in the afternoon) and I have never had any problems with programs or services not responding or not working afterwards. I probably only shut down or restart it a couple times a month. But it could simply be that all my programs, services, drivers, etc. are well-behaved and respond properly to a change in power state message. Other programs, drivers, services, etc. might not be so well-behaved and might cause problems. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/ * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/ "Tuttle" <nospamhere@notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote in message news:eoieFze3IHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Thank you Richard. I'm glad to hear someone knowledgeable confirm what I > suspected. > > Is Hibernate considered generally reliable? I've read reports of some > services not working properly after awaking from Hibernate. I myself saw > some application hangs after awaking from Hibernate, but they could of > course have been caused by something other than Hibernate. |
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| Subject: Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/7/2008 6:15:00 AM |
| From: Tim Slattery [Email Address Protection] |
"Tuttle" <nospamhere@notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote: >Hello all: > >Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves >on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is the >size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up >CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? No. When your computer hibernates, it turns itself off. At that point, it's using nothing at all. When you restart, it reads the hibernate file, starts itself from that, then runs just like any other bootup. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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| Subject: Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/7/2008 1:25:06 PM |
| From: "Tuttle" [Email Address Protection] |
"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message news:kk5474l794abq8pk65qn21u0es9jr7f65h@4ax.com... > "Tuttle" <nospamhere@notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote: > > >Hello all: > > > >Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves > >on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is the > >size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > >CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > No. When your computer hibernates, it turns itself off. At that point, > it's using nothing at all. When you restart, it reads the hibernate > file, starts itself from that, then runs just like any other bootup. Thank you. I thought that information about it using background resources sounded fishy. It just uses diskspace, as expected. |
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| Subject: Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 8:32:11 PM |
| From: "Gene K" [Email Address Protection] |
Certainly head-on the site is, more or less, kinda silly. The hyperlinks listed down the page do appear to have been placed by someone who is knowledgeable of computers and Windows. Gene K "Censored Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMsyndrome.me.uk> wrote in message news:OVIUB9b3IHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "Tuttle" <nospamhere@notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote in message > news:Oy5PbiY3IHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Hello all: >> >> Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it >> reserves >> on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is >> the >> size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up >> CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? >> >> There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of >> them >> include the following statement: >> "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system >> resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you >> may >> want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." >> >> They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? >> >> So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it >> reserves on the hard drive? > > Anybody can write a load of rubbish on a website. Here's an example of > complete technical ineptitude! > > www.kkomp.com > > ss. > |
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