| Subject: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 6:06:37 PM |
| From: "Blake Kaos" [Email Address Protection] |
How can I get rid of the games that came with Vista Home Premium (e.g. Solitaire etc) and save some online real estate? |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 6:24:23 PM |
| From: "Mike Hall - MVP" [Email Address Protection] |
"Blake Kaos" <MGKXLAXBUSTL@spammotel.com> wrote in message news:uNu$DJX3IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > How can I get rid of the games that came with Vista Home Premium (e.g. > Solitaire etc) and save some online real estate? Removing the games will make almost no perceptible difference.. Go to Programs and Features in Control Panel, then select the 'Turn Windows features on and off'.. Then scroll down to 'Games' and uncheck as desired.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 7:20:29 PM |
| From: "Blake Kaos" [Email Address Protection] |
Thanks, Mike. I suspect your suggested solution would leave the games on my PC, but simply make them inaccessible to me. I was thinking more on the lines of deleting them altogether, to free up some disk space. Is that possible / worthwhile? Thanks again. > Removing the games will make almost no perceptible difference.. > > Go to Programs and Features in Control Panel, then select the 'Turn > Windows features on and off'.. > > Then scroll down to 'Games' and uncheck as desired.. > > > -- > Mike Hall - MVP > How to construct a good post.. > http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc > Mike's Window - My Blog.. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx > > > > |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 7:36:28 PM |
| From: Nonny [Email Address Protection] |
"Blake Kaos" <MGKXLAXBUSTL@spammotel.com> wrote: >Thanks, Mike. > >I suspect your suggested solution would leave the games on my PC, but simply >make them inaccessible to me. I was thinking more on the lines of deleting >them altogether, to free up some disk space. Is that possible / worthwhile? Since you seem obsessed with gaining space... go for it. You'll get back about 20K of space. Delete the folder "Microsoft Games" in the Program Files folder. > >Thanks again. > > >> Removing the games will make almost no perceptible difference.. >> >> Go to Programs and Features in Control Panel, then select the 'Turn >> Windows features on and off'.. >> >> Then scroll down to 'Games' and uncheck as desired.. >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hall - MVP >> How to construct a good post.. >> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm >> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc >> Mike's Window - My Blog.. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx >> >> >> >> |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 10:15:52 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
It will just hide them. If you are getting that pressed for hard drive space, what general solutions have you looked at? Like an additional drive? What is the capacity of the C: drive now? "Blake Kaos" <MGKXLAXBUSTL@spammotel.com> wrote in message news:ulU7ZyX3IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Thanks, Mike. > > I suspect your suggested solution would leave the games on my PC, but > simply make them inaccessible to me. I was thinking more on the lines of > deleting them altogether, to free up some disk space. Is that possible / > worthwhile? > > Thanks again. > > >> Removing the games will make almost no perceptible difference.. >> >> Go to Programs and Features in Control Panel, then select the 'Turn >> Windows features on and off'.. >> >> Then scroll down to 'Games' and uncheck as desired.. >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hall - MVP >> How to construct a good post.. >> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm >> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc >> Mike's Window - My Blog.. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx >> >> >> >> > |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 10:55:54 PM |
| From: "Sinner" [Email Address Protection] |
"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:2EA5471E-BE00-43B0-B722-785811A74D56@microsoft.com... > It will just hide them. If you are getting that pressed for hard drive > space, what general solutions have you looked at? Like an additional > drive? What is the capacity of the C: drive now? > Did you ever stop to think that this may just be about housekeeping? Do you still have every newspaper or magazine that has ever entered your home? If you're not using them, just get rid of them. I don't use messenger, movie maker, paint, most of the wallpapers and cursors, media center, games, etc., but MS gives me no way to safely turn them off, let alone delete them. |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 11:03:01 PM |
| From: "SG" [Email Address Protection] |
"Blake Kaos" <MGKXLAXBUSTL@spammotel.com> wrote in message news:ulU7ZyX3IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Thanks, Mike. > > I suspect your suggested solution would leave the games on my PC, but > simply make them inaccessible to me. I was thinking more on the lines of > deleting them altogether, to free up some disk space. Is that possible / > worthwhile? > > Thanks again. > > >> Removing the games will make almost no perceptible difference.. >> >> Go to Programs and Features in Control Panel, then select the 'Turn >> Windows features on and off'.. >> >> Then scroll down to 'Games' and uncheck as desired.. >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hall - MVP >> How to construct a good post.. >> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm >> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc >> Mike's Window - My Blog.. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx >> >> >> >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/1e62706b-ef53-4ecd-a217-0e7bcf82009b1033.mspx -- All the best, SG Is your computer system ready for Vista? https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/ Want to keep up with the latest news from MS? http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t Just type in Microsoft |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 12:02:35 AM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
Yes, hopefully we all do housekeeping. But if trying to save hard drive space is in play, the OP is looking at a drop in the ocean. "Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote in message news:RWibk.16978$NQ5.11664@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:2EA5471E-BE00-43B0-B722-785811A74D56@microsoft.com... >> It will just hide them. If you are getting that pressed for hard drive >> space, what general solutions have you looked at? Like an additional >> drive? What is the capacity of the C: drive now? >> > > Did you ever stop to think that this may just be about housekeeping? Do > you still have every newspaper or magazine that has ever entered your > home? If you're not using them, just get rid of them. > > I don't use messenger, movie maker, paint, most of the wallpapers and > cursors, media center, games, etc., but MS gives me no way to safely turn > them off, let alone delete them. > |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 7:06:58 AM |
| From: "Sinner" [Email Address Protection] |
"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:D832C5C1-749B-4401-999B-B1C396FFD00A@microsoft.com... > Yes, hopefully we all do housekeeping. But if trying to save hard drive > space is in play, the OP is looking at a drop in the ocean. > Even so, it's his computer and he should have the right to be as nit-picky as he wants. MS can have no valid reason not to allow the removal of unwanted portions of their product. It's too bad they didn't retain the Win95 model and just continued to refine the security issues. Sure, we can install other packages, but we can't remove those MS products we don't want. |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 7:48:13 AM |
| From: "Mike Hall - MVP" [Email Address Protection] |
"Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote in message news:76qbk.21338$PZ6.16477@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:D832C5C1-749B-4401-999B-B1C396FFD00A@microsoft.com... >> Yes, hopefully we all do housekeeping. But if trying to save hard drive >> space is in play, the OP is looking at a drop in the ocean. >> > > Even so, it's his computer and he should have the right to be as nit-picky > as he wants. MS can have no valid reason not to allow the removal of > unwanted portions of their product. > > It's too bad they didn't retain the Win95 model and just continued to > refine the security issues. Sure, we can install other packages, but we > can't remove those MS products we don't want. > I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from Ubuntu either.. By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire game or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is beyond the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 8:17:06 AM |
| From: "Sinner" [Email Address Protection] |
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message news:ubLn9Te3IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from > Ubuntu either.. > Who cares? I've never even seen Ubuntu. > By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start > menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire game > or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is beyond > the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. > It isn't about the games, even though the changes they made to Solitaire and Hearts made them horribly slow, it's about corporations telling me what hoops I have to jump through and how much I have to pay for the exercise. There are programs within Vista that are intrusive, pervasive and downright mean, and I don't have the right to remove them. All I want from MS is an operating system. I can populate my computer with the applications I choose, when I want or need them. |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 8:25:48 AM |
| From: "Hobbes" [Email Address Protection] |
"Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote in message news:_8rbk.17194$NQ5.14167@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message > news:ubLn9Te3IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from >> Ubuntu either.. >> > > Who cares? I've never even seen Ubuntu. > >> By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start >> menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire game >> or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is beyond >> the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. >> > > It isn't about the games, even though the changes they made to Solitaire > and Hearts made them horribly slow, it's about corporations telling me > what hoops I have to jump through and how much I have to pay for the > exercise. There are programs within Vista that are intrusive, pervasive > and downright mean, and I don't have the right to remove them. > > All I want from MS is an operating system. I can populate my computer > with the applications I choose, when I want or need them. > > You would need to create your own OS to get exactly and only what you want. Vista is for the general public with an enormous amount of variation in what is "wanted". I cannot think of a single product where the customer dictates every aspect of its creation and implementation. If companies obeyed every customer whim, there wouln't be a single profitable company in the world...therefore companies and their products would cease to exist. |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 8:40:39 AM |
| From: "Mike Hall - MVP" [Email Address Protection] |
"Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote in message news:_8rbk.17194$NQ5.14167@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message > news:ubLn9Te3IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from >> Ubuntu either.. >> > > Who cares? I've never even seen Ubuntu. > >> By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start >> menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire game >> or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is beyond >> the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. >> > > It isn't about the games, even though the changes they made to Solitaire > and Hearts made them horribly slow, it's about corporations telling me > what hoops I have to jump through and how much I have to pay for the > exercise. There are programs within Vista that are intrusive, pervasive > and downright mean, and I don't have the right to remove them. > > All I want from MS is an operating system. I can populate my computer > with the applications I choose, when I want or need them. > The games in Windows are none of what you claim, and the controlling card file supplies the cards for ALL of the card games which are installed. The sum total of the files witch make up the default games is less tan the space taken up by the sum of text files which get installed along with most applications.. From memory, the games have been seen in all Windows editions, certainly from Windows 3, and were included originally as a fun way to learn the art of of the double click and drag 'n drop.. Windows is put together for all levels of users, and Linux variants are following the same path. You may well be in a minority, and as you already know, the few sometimes have to be sacrificed for the many.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 8:45:18 AM |
| From: Nonny [Email Address Protection] |
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: >"Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote in message >news:_8rbk.17194$NQ5.14167@bignews6.bellsouth.net... >> >> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >> news:ubLn9Te3IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>> >>> I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from >>> Ubuntu either.. >>> >> >> Who cares? I've never even seen Ubuntu. >> >>> By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start >>> menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire game >>> or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is beyond >>> the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. >>> >> >> It isn't about the games, even though the changes they made to Solitaire >> and Hearts made them horribly slow, it's about corporations telling me >> what hoops I have to jump through and how much I have to pay for the >> exercise. There are programs within Vista that are intrusive, pervasive >> and downright mean, and I don't have the right to remove them. >> >> All I want from MS is an operating system. I can populate my computer >> with the applications I choose, when I want or need them. >> > > >The games in Windows are none of what you claim, and the controlling card >file supplies the cards for ALL of the card games which are installed. The >sum total of the files witch make up the default games is less tan the space >taken up by the sum of text files which get installed along with most >applications.. > >From memory, the games have been seen in all Windows editions, certainly >from Windows 3, and were included originally as a fun way to learn the art >of of the double click and drag 'n drop.. And for YEARS (and this might still be the case), Solitaire was the most used program on all Windows computers. >Windows is put together for all levels of users, and Linux variants are >following the same path. You may well be in a minority, and as you already >know, the few sometimes have to be sacrificed for the many.. |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 8:49:52 AM |
| From: "Gordon" [Email Address Protection] |
"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2bhs64dh6gia65kq1o1li9n21rigub0hj5@4ax.com... > > And for YEARS (and this might still be the case), Solitaire was the > most used program on all Windows computers. > But not after Minesweeper's acquired sound effects in Vista.. <VBG> |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 9:10:46 AM |
| From: Charlie Tame [Email Address Protection] |
Sinner wrote: > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message > news:ubLn9Te3IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from >> Ubuntu either.. >> > > Who cares? I've never even seen Ubuntu. > >> By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start >> menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire game >> or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is beyond >> the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. >> > > It isn't about the games, even though the changes they made to Solitaire and > Hearts made them horribly slow, it's about corporations telling me what > hoops I have to jump through and how much I have to pay for the exercise. > There are programs within Vista that are intrusive, pervasive and downright > mean, and I don't have the right to remove them. > > All I want from MS is an operating system. I can populate my computer with > the applications I choose, when I want or need them. > > Well that is basically what Debian Linux is, and Ubuntu is Debian with more stuff in it by default. The "Core" of Debian is like MS-DOS, it has been given a GUI kinds like Windows 3.1 was designed that runs "On top" if you like and then if you want the extra GFX and fancy stuff you can add them yourself to Debian or just get Ubuntu where someone else has done that for you. By the way (Before I get jumped all over) technically this explanation is not really accurate, but if as you say you never saw Ubuntu it's just a simple way to describe what you would see, But the same applies to some extent, you will always get some stuff you really never use, and you probably could remove some of that safely, however the applications (media players, browsers etc) are not irrevocably "Integrated" with the OS as they are in Windows. BUT, you will still get users who want everything, and install 20 different things to do the same job, and then yes, they break the system just as they would break Windows. This is not because of the disk space used, which is minimal usually, it is because when 20 things are running the system slows down, drivers maybe conflict and so on. But what you describe is essentially the idea behind Unix / Linux. Bare essential that you add to at will. |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 11:37:24 AM |
| From: norm [Email Address Protection] |
Mike Hall - MVP wrote: > "Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote in message > news:76qbk.21338$PZ6.16477@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:D832C5C1-749B-4401-999B-B1C396FFD00A@microsoft.com... >>> Yes, hopefully we all do housekeeping. But if trying to save hard >>> drive space is in play, the OP is looking at a drop in the ocean. >>> >> >> Even so, it's his computer and he should have the right to be as >> nit-picky as he wants. MS can have no valid reason not to allow the >> removal of unwanted portions of their product. >> >> It's too bad they didn't retain the Win95 model and just continued to >> refine the security issues. Sure, we can install other packages, but >> we can't remove those MS products we don't want. >> > > > I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from > Ubuntu either.. They aren't? Applications/add-remove/games, uncheck the game(s) to remove, click apply. (This method is from a default installation of ubuntu). > > By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start > menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire > game or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is > beyond the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. > -- norm |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 11:39:32 AM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
"> > And for YEARS (and this might still be the case), Solitaire was the > most used program on all Windows computers. > A couple of my friends at Redmond tell me that the new productivity virus there is Mahjong Titans. :) |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 11:43:37 AM |
| From: norm [Email Address Protection] |
Sinner wrote: > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message > news:ubLn9Te3IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from >> Ubuntu either.. >> > > Who cares? I've never even seen Ubuntu. > >> By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start >> menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire game >> or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is beyond >> the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. >> > > It isn't about the games, even though the changes they made to Solitaire and > Hearts made them horribly slow, it's about corporations telling me what > hoops I have to jump through and how much I have to pay for the exercise. > There are programs within Vista that are intrusive, pervasive and downright > mean, and I don't have the right to remove them. > > All I want from MS is an operating system. I can populate my computer with > the applications I choose, when I want or need them. > > You can move and run the xp version of solitaire on vista. http://www.thepcspy.com/read/running_xps_solitaire_in_vista The site also states that one should be able to move and run ALL the xp games in the same manner. I have only done so with solitaire (for my wife - no experience on moving any others). -- norm |
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| Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Games |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/4/2008 12:39:46 PM |
| From: "Mike Hall - MVP" [Email Address Protection] |
"norm" <noone@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:Ox4O$Tg3IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >> "Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote in message >> news:76qbk.21338$PZ6.16477@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >>> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:D832C5C1-749B-4401-999B-B1C396FFD00A@microsoft.com... >>>> Yes, hopefully we all do housekeeping. But if trying to save hard >>>> drive space is in play, the OP is looking at a drop in the ocean. >>>> >>> >>> Even so, it's his computer and he should have the right to be as >>> nit-picky as he wants. MS can have no valid reason not to allow the >>> removal of unwanted portions of their product. >>> >>> It's too bad they didn't retain the Win95 model and just continued to >>> refine the security issues. Sure, we can install other packages, but we >>> can't remove those MS products we don't want. >>> >> >> >> I think that you will find that games are not obviously removable from >> Ubuntu either.. > > They aren't? Applications/add-remove/games, uncheck the game(s) to remove, > click apply. (This method is from a default installation of ubuntu). > >> >> By removing the features in Windows, that removes the icons in the start >> menu. If the knowledge that some code still exists for the Solitaire game >> or any of the others causes grief, then help for that condition is beyond >> the scope of a Windows technical newsgroup.. >> > > > -- > norm Does that REMOVE the games or just hide them? -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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