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October 11, 2008  
Subject: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/3/2008 3:30:01 PM
From: =?Utf-8?B?VGFsZWs=?= [Email Address Protection]

Hi, I purchased two copies of vista, one 64 and one 32. The 32 bit was
installed on a different machine and the 64 bit on my own. Since then I have
found 64 bit to be rather incompatible with my needs.

I am wondering if I can reformat my computer with 64 bit on it, then install
the 32 bit software on it using the 64 bit product key so I don't use the
same key twice.

Since I only have OEM, I am wondering if my 64 bit key would be compatible
with a 32 bit copy of Vista. Anyone know? Thanks

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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/3/2008 3:58:07 PM
From: "Shane Nokes" [Email Address Protection]

If you mean OEM software as in software that you purchased that was labeled
as OEM then yes you can, and Nonny is completely wrong.

If you mean OEM software as in software provided by Gateway, Dell, etc. then
no you cannot as the keys that they provide are "dead" keys.

"Talek" <Talek@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B0763D91-DEF1-4529-BA3E-B106F000218E@microsoft.com...
> Hi, I purchased two copies of vista, one 64 and one 32. The 32 bit was
> installed on a different machine and the 64 bit on my own. Since then I
> have
> found 64 bit to be rather incompatible with my needs.
>
> I am wondering if I can reformat my computer with 64 bit on it, then
> install
> the 32 bit software on it using the 64 bit product key so I don't use the
> same key twice.
>
> Since I only have OEM, I am wondering if my 64 bit key would be compatible
> with a 32 bit copy of Vista. Anyone know? Thanks


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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/3/2008 6:32:35 PM
From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection]

How did you obtain the OEM software? If you purchased OEM packs from
someplace like NewEgg for your own use then be aware that the OEM (System
Builder) License is only for installing the software on a computer for sale
to a customer.

"Talek" <Talek@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B0763D91-DEF1-4529-BA3E-B106F000218E@microsoft.com...
> Hi, I purchased two copies of vista, one 64 and one 32. The 32 bit was
> installed on a different machine and the 64 bit on my own. Since then I
> have
> found 64 bit to be rather incompatible with my needs.
>
> I am wondering if I can reformat my computer with 64 bit on it, then
> install
> the 32 bit software on it using the 64 bit product key so I don't use the
> same key twice.
>
> Since I only have OEM, I am wondering if my 64 bit key would be compatible
> with a 32 bit copy of Vista. Anyone know? Thanks


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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/4/2008 12:12:09 PM
From: Bruce Chambers [Email Address Protection]

Talek wrote:
> Hi, I purchased two copies of vista, one 64 and one 32. The 32 bit was
> installed on a different machine and the 64 bit on my own. Since then I have
> found 64 bit to be rather incompatible with my needs.
>
> I am wondering if I can reformat my computer with 64 bit on it, then install
> the 32 bit software on it using the 64 bit product key so I don't use the
> same key twice.
>
> Since I only have OEM, I am wondering if my 64 bit key would be compatible
> with a 32 bit copy of Vista. Anyone know? Thanks


No, the 64-bit Product Key wouldn't work with the 32-bit DVD.

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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/4/2008 12:44:38 PM
From: "Mark H" [Email Address Protection]

If it is from some vendor, Dell, HP, etc, use this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=144783

The key provided on the computer is "fake" in that it has never been used.
Instead, vendors use two special files to license and activate your copy of
Vista. This procedure will simply move those two files to your re-install of
a different bitness. It still has the be the same machine since those files
are tied to that machine.



"Talek" <Talek@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B0763D91-DEF1-4529-BA3E-B106F000218E@microsoft.com...
> Hi, I purchased two copies of vista, one 64 and one 32. The 32 bit was
> installed on a different machine and the 64 bit on my own. Since then I
> have
> found 64 bit to be rather incompatible with my needs.
>
> I am wondering if I can reformat my computer with 64 bit on it, then
> install
> the 32 bit software on it using the 64 bit product key so I don't use the
> same key twice.
>
> Since I only have OEM, I am wondering if my 64 bit key would be compatible
> with a 32 bit copy of Vista. Anyone know? Thanks


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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/4/2008 9:20:38 PM
From: Nonny [Email Address Protection]

"Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:

>Not true at all Mick.
>
>The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
>
>The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes to the
>"big" OEM players.
>
>Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.

<sigh> This guy is trying to use the same copy of Windows on two
computers. Notice that he doesn't want to use the same key twice.

Am I the only one who sees that?

>Read the Vista EULA.
>
>"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:203E629D-02D3-4B99-BF33-4A6E88E5982F@microsoft.com...
>> Nope. The OEM product key is tied to one computer for the life of that
>> computer.
>> One OEM Product key, one installation; which can not be moved to another
>> computer.
>> --
>> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>>
>>
>> "Talek" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I purchased two copies of vista, one 64 and one 32. The 32 bit was
>>> installed on a different machine and the 64 bit on my own. Since then I
>>> have
>>> found 64 bit to be rather incompatible with my needs.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if I can reformat my computer with 64 bit on it, then
>>> install
>>> the 32 bit software on it using the 64 bit product key so I don't use the
>>> same key twice.
>>>
>>> Since I only have OEM, I am wondering if my 64 bit key would be
>>> compatible
>>> with a 32 bit copy of Vista. Anyone know? Thanks

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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/5/2008 6:39:20 AM
From: "Mark H" [Email Address Protection]

I think you've jumped to a wrong conclusion.
He bought two copies of Vista (first sentence.)
Given a modicum of respect to the user, I would contend this is two separate
copies (two different product keys) since they are OEM. Not even Ultimate is
sold with both disks if OEM.

That stated: the OP is attempting to change the bitness of one device using
the proper product key assigned to it.

This should not be a problem since the copy of vista is not unique. It's the
product key that is unique.

The process will work as long as the OEM disks are not actually "recovery
disks."

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5itt64l8cdtmi3affc9gpf995f2j4o8jrk@4ax.com...
> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:
>
>>Not true at all Mick.
>>
>>The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
>>
>>The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes to the
>>"big" OEM players.
>>
>>Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
>
> <sigh> This guy is trying to use the same copy of Windows on two
> computers. Notice that he doesn't want to use the same key twice.
>
> Am I the only one who sees that?
>
>>Read the Vista EULA.
>>
>>"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:203E629D-02D3-4B99-BF33-4A6E88E5982F@microsoft.com...
>>> Nope. The OEM product key is tied to one computer for the life of that
>>> computer.
>>> One OEM Product key, one installation; which can not be moved to another
>>> computer.
>>> --
>>> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>>>
>>>
>>> "Talek" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, I purchased two copies of vista, one 64 and one 32. The 32 bit was
>>>> installed on a different machine and the 64 bit on my own. Since then I
>>>> have
>>>> found 64 bit to be rather incompatible with my needs.
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if I can reformat my computer with 64 bit on it, then
>>>> install
>>>> the 32 bit software on it using the 64 bit product key so I don't use
>>>> the
>>>> same key twice.
>>>>
>>>> Since I only have OEM, I am wondering if my 64 bit key would be
>>>> compatible
>>>> with a 32 bit copy of Vista. Anyone know? Thanks


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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/5/2008 1:45:14 PM
From: Nonny [Email Address Protection]

"Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:

>It seems you're right Colin.

Seems?

He IS right.


>
>For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the retail license.
>
>In late 2006 the retail license changed a few times as regards transfers and
>I thought it was the OEM license for some odd reason.
>
>"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...
>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
>> news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com...
>>> Not true at all Mick.
>>>
>>> The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
>>>
>>> The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes to the
>>> "big" OEM players.
>>>
>>> Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
>>>
>>> Read the Vista EULA.
>>>
>>
>> From the EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US
>>
>> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently
>> assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That device
>> is the �licensed device.� A hardware partition or blade is considered to
>> be a separate device.
>> a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the
>> licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on that
>> device at one time. You may not use the software on any other device.
>>

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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/5/2008 2:28:40 PM
From: Nonny [Email Address Protection]

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>"Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
>news:57A230F8-E289-4FB8-957C-E7E8FEF15A02@microsoft.com...
>> It seems you're right Colin.
>>
>> For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the retail license.
>>
>> In late 2006 the retail license changed a few times as regards transfers
>> and I thought it was the OEM license for some odd reason.
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...
>>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
>>> news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com...
>>>> Not true at all Mick.
>>>>
>>>> The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
>>>>
>>>> The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes to the
>>>> "big" OEM players.
>>>>
>>>> Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
>>>>
>>>> Read the Vista EULA.
>>>>
>>>
>>> From the EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US
>>>
>>> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently
>>> assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That device
>>> is the �licensed device.� A hardware partition or blade is considered to
>>> be a separate device.
>>> a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the
>>> licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on
>>> that device at one time. You may not use the software on any other
>>> device.
>>>
>
>I know what you mean. You just about have to go find a computer with the
>license on it and dig it out and read it. I don't blame anyone for
>confusing licensing. I install stuff in a virtual machine just to check
>this stuff out sometimes.
>
>But what I will do is double check whether or not there is any difference
>between the medium and large system builders and the EULA installed by an
>OEM (System Builder) License pack as sold by NewEgg.
>
>Because of all the conflicting opinions in the ng on these topics, I decided
>to order a Vista Home Basic SP1 system builder pack (after all, I don't to
>spend any more than needed for this) from NewEgg and will do some exeriments
>in a some virtual machines. Besides checking the EULA, I can check for
>upgrade functionality (there isn't supposed to be any), mixing and matching
>OEM, retail full, and retail upgrade product keys, keyless installations,
>and so on.
>
>Obviously, I will be violating the SB license since I won't be installing on
>a new computer for sale to a customer, but I won't be using the vm
>afterwards anyway so I guess nobody is going to call the OEM police.

<post forwarded to OEM police>

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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/5/2008 3:18:13 PM
From: "Shane Nokes" [Email Address Protection]

That's what I said.

Then again I've noticed that you're a tagalong with a bad attitude.

So please don't post to me unless you have something useful to say.

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3anv649akrggjb4gpnau1fshs0pkaq9sp9@4ax.com...
> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:
>
>>It seems you're right Colin.
>
> Seems?
>
> He IS right.
>
>
>>
>>For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the retail license.
>>
>>In late 2006 the retail license changed a few times as regards transfers
>>and
>>I thought it was the OEM license for some odd reason.
>>
>>"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...
>>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
>>> news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com...
>>>> Not true at all Mick.
>>>>
>>>> The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
>>>>
>>>> The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes to the
>>>> "big" OEM players.
>>>>
>>>> Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
>>>>
>>>> Read the Vista EULA.
>>>>
>>>
>>> From the EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US
>>>
>>> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently
>>> assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That
>>> device
>>> is the "licensed device." A hardware partition or blade is considered
>>> to
>>> be a separate device.
>>> a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the
>>> licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on
>>> that
>>> device at one time. You may not use the software on any other device.
>>>

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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/5/2008 3:37:44 PM
From: Nonny [Email Address Protection]

"Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:

>That's what I said.
>
>Then again I've noticed that you're a tagalong with a bad attitude.
>
>So please don't post to me unless you have something useful to say.

Another couple times seeing you feed the trolls will surely put it to
a stop since you'll be joining them in the boob bin.


>
>"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:3anv649akrggjb4gpnau1fshs0pkaq9sp9@4ax.com...
>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:
>>
>>>It seems you're right Colin.
>>
>> Seems?
>>
>> He IS right.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the retail license.
>>>
>>>In late 2006 the retail license changed a few times as regards transfers
>>>and
>>>I thought it was the OEM license for some odd reason.
>>>
>>>"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...
>>>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
>>>> news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Not true at all Mick.
>>>>>
>>>>> The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes to the
>>>>> "big" OEM players.
>>>>>
>>>>> Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the Vista EULA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From the EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US
>>>>
>>>> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently
>>>> assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That
>>>> device
>>>> is the "licensed device." A hardware partition or blade is considered
>>>> to
>>>> be a separate device.
>>>> a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the
>>>> licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on
>>>> that
>>>> device at one time. You may not use the software on any other device.
>>>>

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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/5/2008 7:43:20 PM
From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection]

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:grpv64phcsr36p9nq5srhj3nuug2e59t07@4ax.com...
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>"Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
>>news:57A230F8-E289-4FB8-957C-E7E8FEF15A02@microsoft.com...
>>> It seems you're right Colin.
>>>
>>> For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the retail license.
>>>
>>> In late 2006 the retail license changed a few times as regards transfers
>>> and I thought it was the OEM license for some odd reason.
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...
>>>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
>>>> news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Not true at all Mick.
>>>>>
>>>>> The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes to
>>>>> the
>>>>> "big" OEM players.
>>>>>
>>>>> Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the Vista EULA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From the EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US
>>>>
>>>> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently
>>>> assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That
>>>> device
>>>> is the "licensed device." A hardware partition or blade is considered
>>>> to
>>>> be a separate device.
>>>> a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the
>>>> licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on
>>>> that device at one time. You may not use the software on any other
>>>> device.
>>>>
>>
>>I know what you mean. You just about have to go find a computer with the
>>license on it and dig it out and read it. I don't blame anyone for
>>confusing licensing. I install stuff in a virtual machine just to check
>>this stuff out sometimes.
>>
>>But what I will do is double check whether or not there is any difference
>>between the medium and large system builders and the EULA installed by an
>>OEM (System Builder) License pack as sold by NewEgg.
>>
>>Because of all the conflicting opinions in the ng on these topics, I
>>decided
>>to order a Vista Home Basic SP1 system builder pack (after all, I don't to
>>spend any more than needed for this) from NewEgg and will do some
>>exeriments
>>in a some virtual machines. Besides checking the EULA, I can check for
>>upgrade functionality (there isn't supposed to be any), mixing and
>>matching
>>OEM, retail full, and retail upgrade product keys, keyless installations,
>>and so on.
>>
>>Obviously, I will be violating the SB license since I won't be installing
>>on
>>a new computer for sale to a customer, but I won't be using the vm
>>afterwards anyway so I guess nobody is going to call the OEM police.
>
> <post forwarded to OEM police>


<Got it.> :P


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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/5/2008 7:56:03 PM
From: "Shane Nokes" [Email Address Protection]

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Right

So I'm guessing that you're some sort of Supertroll hiding behind a =
pseudonym because you're too afraid to post as your self.

You're a joke.
"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:nptv64dgkgj66v2o3tevp0aev18q4t5jta@4ax.com...
"Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:

>That's what I said.
>
>Then again I've noticed that you're a tagalong with a bad attitude.
>
>So please don't post to me unless you have something useful to say.

Another couple times seeing you feed the trolls will surely put it to
a stop since you'll be joining them in the boob bin.


>
>"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message=20
>news:3anv649akrggjb4gpnau1fshs0pkaq9sp9@4ax.com...
>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:
>>
>>>It seems you're right Colin.
>>
>> Seems?
>>
>> He IS right.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the retail =
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>>>
>>>In late 2006 the retail license changed a few times as regards =
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>>>and
>>>I thought it was the OEM license for some odd reason.
>>>
>>>"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...
>>>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
>>>> news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com...
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>>>>>
>>>>> The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes =
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>>>>> "big" OEM players.
>>>>>
>>>>> Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the Vista EULA.
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I'm guessing that you're some sort =
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hiding behind a pseudonym because you're too afraid to post as your=20
self.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You're a joke.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Nonny" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nonnymoose@yahoo.com">nonnymoose@yahoo.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:nptv64dgkgj66v2o3tevp0aev18q4t5jta@4ax.com">news:nptv64dgkgj=
66v2o3tevp0aev18q4t5jta@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>"Shane=20
Nokes" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm">shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXo=
Xm</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;That's what I said.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Then again I've =
noticed=20
that you're a tagalong with a bad attitude.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;So please =
don't=20
post to me unless you have something useful to say.<BR><BR>Another =
couple=20
times seeing you feed the trolls will surely put it to<BR>a stop since =
you'll=20
be joining them in the boob bin.<BR><BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;"Nonny" &lt;<A =

href=3D"mailto:nonnymoose@yahoo.com">nonnymoose@yahoo.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message =
<BR>&gt;news:3anv649akrggjb4gpnau1fshs0pkaq9sp9@4ax.com...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
"Shane Nokes" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm">shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXo=
Xm</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;It seems you're right=20
Colin.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Seems?<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; He IS=20
right.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;For some =
reason=20
I was thinking of the debacle over the retail=20
license.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;In late 2006 the retail =
license=20
changed a few times as regards transfers =
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;and<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;I=20
thought it was the OEM license for some odd=20
reason.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;"Colin Barnhorst" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:c.barnhorst@comcast.net">c.barnhorst@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
=
message<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsof=
t.com...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
"Shane Nokes" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm">shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXo=
Xm</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
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38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;=20
Not true at all Mick.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
The OEM=20
licensing restrictions for Vista have=20
changed.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The only case =
that=20
what you are stating is true is when it comes to =
the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
"big" OEM players.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
Normal=20
purchasable OEM licenses can be=20
re-assigned.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Read the =
Vista=20
EULA.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
From the=20
=
EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;=20
2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.&nbsp; The software license is=20
permanently<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assigned to the device with which you =
acquired=20
the software.&nbsp; That <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
device<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; is=20
the "licensed device."&nbsp; A hardware partition or blade is =
considered=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; be a separate=20
device.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a. Licensed Device.&nbsp; You may install =
one copy=20
of the software on the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; licensed device.&nbsp; You =
may use=20
the software on up to two processors on <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
that<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; device at one time.&nbsp; You may not use the =

software on any other =
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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/5/2008 8:16:49 PM
From: Nonny [Email Address Protection]

"Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:

>Right
>
>So I'm guessing that you're some sort of Supertroll hiding behind a pseudonym because you're too afraid to post as your self.

OK... if it will make you happy: my real name is Paul Montgomery. Have
fun.

Feel better, bunky?

>You're a joke.
> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:nptv64dgkgj66v2o3tevp0aev18q4t5jta@4ax.com...
> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:
>
> >That's what I said.
> >
> >Then again I've noticed that you're a tagalong with a bad attitude.
> >
> >So please don't post to me unless you have something useful to say.
>
> Another couple times seeing you feed the trolls will surely put it to
> a stop since you'll be joining them in the boob bin.
>
>
> >
> >"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:3anv649akrggjb4gpnau1fshs0pkaq9sp9@4ax.com...
> >> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:
> >>
> >>>It seems you're right Colin.
> >>
> >> Seems?
> >>
> >> He IS right.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the retail license.
> >>>
> >>>In late 2006 the retail license changed a few times as regards transfers
> >>>and
> >>>I thought it was the OEM license for some odd reason.
> >>>
> >>>"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...
> >>>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
> >>>> news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com...
> >>>>> Not true at all Mick.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only case that what you are stating is true is when it comes to the
> >>>>> "big" OEM players.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Read the Vista EULA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From the EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently
> >>>> assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That
> >>>> device
> >>>> is the "licensed device." A hardware partition or blade is considered
> >>>> to
> >>>> be a separate device.
> >>>> a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the
> >>>> licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on
> >>>> that
> >>>> device at one time. You may not use the software on any other device.
> >>>>

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Subject: Re: Vista OEM software, downgrade from 64 to 32 bit
Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Date: 7/6/2008 1:47:22 AM
From: "Shane Nokes" [Email Address Protection]

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Bunky?

I don't think you'll finding me sharing anything with you, let alone =
sleeping in the same room.

Honestly what is your issue?
"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:fud074500d0gmefp4a61qdo75uggjki49k@4ax.com...
"Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:

>Right
>
>So I'm guessing that you're some sort of Supertroll hiding behind a =
pseudonym because you're too afraid to post as your self.

OK... if it will make you happy: my real name is Paul Montgomery. Have
fun.

Feel better, bunky? =20

>You're a joke.
> "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:nptv64dgkgj66v2o3tevp0aev18q4t5jta@4ax.com...
> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:
>
> >That's what I said.
> >
> >Then again I've noticed that you're a tagalong with a bad =
attitude.
> >
> >So please don't post to me unless you have something useful to =
say.
>
> Another couple times seeing you feed the trolls will surely put it =
to
> a stop since you'll be joining them in the boob bin.
>
>
> >
> >"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message=20
> >news:3anv649akrggjb4gpnau1fshs0pkaq9sp9@4ax.com...
> >> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote:
> >>
> >>>It seems you're right Colin.
> >>
> >> Seems?
> >>
> >> He IS right.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the retail =
license.
> >>>
> >>>In late 2006 the retail license changed a few times as regards =
transfers=20
> >>>and
> >>>I thought it was the OEM license for some odd reason.
> >>>
> >>>"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...
> >>>> "Shane Nokes" <shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm> wrote in message
> >>>> news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com...
> >>>>> Not true at all Mick.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The OEM licensing restrictions for Vista have changed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only case that what you are stating is true is when it =
comes to the
> >>>>> "big" OEM players.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Normal purchasable OEM licenses can be re-assigned.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Read the Vista EULA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From the EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is =
permanently
> >>>> assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. =
That=20
> >>>> device
> >>>> is the "licensed device." A hardware partition or blade is =
considered=20
> >>>> to
> >>>> be a separate device.
> >>>> a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software =
on the
> >>>> licensed device. You may use the software on up to two =
processors on=20
> >>>> that
> >>>> device at one time. You may not use the software on any other =
device.
> >>>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bunky?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Nonny" &lt;<A=20
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wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
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Nokes" &lt;<A=20
=
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Xm</A>&gt;=20
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post as=20
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Paul=20
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<BR><BR>&gt;You're a=20
joke.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "Nonny" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nonnymoose@yahoo.com">nonnymoose@yahoo.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
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66v2o3tevp0aev18q4t5jta@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
"Shane Nokes" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm">shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXo=
Xm</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;That's what I said.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Then again I've noticed that you're a tagalong =
with a=20
bad attitude.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;So please don't =
post to me=20
unless you have something useful to say.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Another =
couple=20
times seeing you feed the trolls will surely put it to<BR>&gt;&nbsp; a =
stop=20
since you'll be joining them in the boob =
bin.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;"Nonny" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nonnymoose@yahoo.com">nonnymoose@yahoo.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
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&gt;news:3anv649akrggjb4gpnau1fshs0pkaq9sp9@4ax.com...<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&gt;=20
"Shane Nokes" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm">shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXo=
Xm</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;It seems =
you're right=20
Colin.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; =
Seems?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; He IS right.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;For some reason I was thinking of the debacle over the =
retail=20
license.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;In late =
2006 the=20
retail license changed a few times as regards transfers <BR>&gt;&nbsp; =

&gt;&gt;&gt;and<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;I thought it was the OEM =
license for=20
some odd reason.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;"Colin=20
Barnhorst" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:c.barnhorst@comcast.net">c.barnhorst@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
=
&gt;&gt;&gt;news:64635D11-7F2F-44D5-AD58-9C159A6EB397@microsoft.com...<BR=
>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "Shane Nokes" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXoXm">shane@hotwiredpc.nospam.cXo=
Xm</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A=20
=
href=3D"news:00E38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com">news:00E=
38A48-36A0-4E2F-9967-247E4DB99CF7@microsoft.com</A>...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not true at all Mick.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The OEM =
licensing=20
restrictions for Vista have changed.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The only case =
that=20
what you are stating is true is when it comes to the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "big" OEM players.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Normal =
purchasable OEM=20
licenses can be re-assigned.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Read the Vista EULA.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From the=20
EULAID:VistaSP1_R1.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2. INSTALLATION AND =
USE=20
RIGHTS.&nbsp; The software license is permanently<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assigned to the device with which you acquired the=20
software.&nbsp; That <BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
device<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; is the "licensed device."&nbsp; A hardware partition =
or blade=20
is considered <BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; be a separate device.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
a.=20
Licensed Device.&nbsp; You may install one copy of the software on=20
the<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; licensed device.&nbsp; You may use =
the=20
software on up to two processors on <BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
that<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; device at one time.&nbsp; You may =
not use=20
the software on any other device.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
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