| Subject: Not offered Service Pack 1 -Why? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 2:45:35 PM |
| From: "Karl" [Email Address Protection] |
Using a fairly new Dell PC without SP 1 installed, Windows Update does not offer to install SP1, for some reason. Dell Tech Support said that was probably due to the fact that my PC has all the important updates installed, and to offer to install SP1 would be duplicative and might involve downloading duplicative files. But does this make sense? Would I then just keep installing routine important updates, waiting till SP 2 comes out? In any case, I am reluctant to download SP 1 directly from the Microsoft website, as they strongly recommend against doing so. Any suggestions? Thanks, Karl |
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| Subject: Re: Not offered Service Pack 1 -Why? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 3:08:27 PM |
| From: "Charlie42" [Email Address Protection] |
"Karl" <kthurber@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > Using a fairly new Dell PC without SP 1 installed, Windows Update does > not offer to install SP1, for some reason. Dell Tech Support said that was > probably due to the fact that my PC has all the important updates > installed, and to offer to install SP1 would be duplicative and might > involve downloading duplicative files. But does this make sense? Would I > then just keep installing routine important updates, waiting till SP 2 > comes > out? You are right, it does not make sense. Security packs install even on systems that have been kept updated all the time. > In any case, I am reluctant to download SP 1 directly from the Microsoft > website, as they strongly recommend against doing so. > > Any suggestions? The stand-alone installer works just fine, but it is a massive download which may not be needed. First, try to figure out why SP1 is not offered through Windows Update: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343 Charlie42 |
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| Subject: Re: Not offered Service Pack 1 -Why? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 4:13:37 PM |
| From: "JohnJ" [Email Address Protection] |
"Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not> wrote in message news:uAJkUlV3IHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "Karl" <kthurber@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > > Using a fairly new Dell PC without SP 1 installed, Windows Update does > > not offer to install SP1, for some reason. Dell Tech Support said that was > > probably due to the fact that my PC has all the important updates > > installed, and to offer to install SP1 would be duplicative and might > > involve downloading duplicative files. But does this make sense? Would I > > then just keep installing routine important updates, waiting till SP 2 > > comes > > out? > > You are right, it does not make sense. Security packs install even on > systems that have been kept updated all the time. > > > In any case, I am reluctant to download SP 1 directly from the Microsoft > > website, as they strongly recommend against doing so. > > > > Any suggestions? > > The stand-alone installer works just fine, but it is a massive download > which may not be needed. First, try to figure out why SP1 is not offered > through Windows Update: > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343 > > Charlie42 > I thought I heard that if M$ still hasn't available a Vista driver for some component on one's system, the service pack wouldn't be made available thru Windows Update. Not until that driver became available. I think that's why my machine doesn't pick it up, the particular sound driver on it has not been updated to Vista Ready. John |
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| Subject: Re: Not offered Service Pack 1 -Why? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 6:35:56 PM |
| From: "Charlie42" [Email Address Protection] |
"JohnJ" <goodnews@goodnews.can> wrote: > I thought I heard that if M$ still hasn't available a Vista driver for > some > component on one's system, the service pack wouldn't be made available > thru Windows Update. Not until that driver became available. I think > that's why my machine doesn't pick it up, the particular sound driver on > it > has not been updated to Vista Ready. You are correct. Search your sound card manufacturer's support site for driver downloads. This is the best place to get the most recent drivers, Windows Update is rarely up to pace. Charlie42 |
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| Subject: Re: Not offered Service Pack 1 -Why? |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 7/3/2008 10:27:07 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
However, you can use the standalone SP1 package and after the upgrade reinstall the driver manually. if needed. The driver issue is not a matter of bad drivers or drivers not working with SP1 but drivers that were (erroneously) not written to permit them to be be automatically reinstalled by SP1 after the upgrade. SP1 uninstalls all drivers, does the upgrade, and then reinstalls the drivers. MS simply didn't want average users faced with having to learn how to reinstall a driver. "JohnJ" <goodnews@goodnews.can> wrote in message news:LN2dnaLBTuq8wPDVnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@comcast.com... > > "Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not> wrote in message > news:uAJkUlV3IHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> "Karl" <kthurber@elmore.rr.com> wrote: >> >> > Using a fairly new Dell PC without SP 1 installed, Windows Update does >> > not offer to install SP1, for some reason. Dell Tech Support said that > was >> > probably due to the fact that my PC has all the important updates >> > installed, and to offer to install SP1 would be duplicative and might >> > involve downloading duplicative files. But does this make sense? Would >> > I >> > then just keep installing routine important updates, waiting till SP 2 >> > comes >> > out? >> >> You are right, it does not make sense. Security packs install even on >> systems that have been kept updated all the time. >> >> > In any case, I am reluctant to download SP 1 directly from the >> > Microsoft >> > website, as they strongly recommend against doing so. >> > >> > Any suggestions? >> >> The stand-alone installer works just fine, but it is a massive download >> which may not be needed. First, try to figure out why SP1 is not offered >> through Windows Update: >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343 >> >> Charlie42 >> > > I thought I heard that if M$ still hasn't available a Vista driver for > some > component on one's system, the service pack wouldn't be made available > thru > Windows Update. Not until that driver became available. I think that's > why > my machine doesn't pick it up, the particular sound driver on it has not > been updated to Vista Ready. > John > > |
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