| Subject: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/25/2008 8:57:03 AM |
| From: =?Utf-8?B?S3Jpc3RpYW4=?= [Email Address Protection] |
As implied by the title, my old computer died and I need to replace it. I am curious as to wheter or not it is possible to use my same Vista product key on my new computer, or if I have to buy an entirely new version. |
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| Subject: Re: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/25/2008 9:27:52 AM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
If your Vista came preinstalled on your old machine then you cannot use the product key any more. In particular it would not work with retail copies of Vista. Also, preinstalled Vista is not transferrable to another computer even if the old one dies. Preinstalled Vista and the computer are one product. If you purchased Vista at retail you may use it on your new computer. Just how you go about doing that depends on what you are running on the new computer now and whether your retail copy of Vista is an upgrade edition or standard. You need to tell us a few things about your system and your current copy of Windows before we can fill in the details. "Kristian" <Kristian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:143C0875-3E89-4F46-81D6-5A462FA38053@microsoft.com... > As implied by the title, my old computer died and I need to replace it. I > am > curious as to wheter or not it is possible to use my same Vista product > key > on my new computer, or if I have to buy an entirely new version. |
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| Subject: Re: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/25/2008 10:07:41 PM |
| From: Brian the King [Email Address Protection] |
The 'one time only' thing did exist, but I had forgotten Microsoft changed that a while after Vista was released. Thank you for correcting me. Colin Barnhorst;758803 Wrote: > There is no such thing as a one-time transfer for Windows OSs. If the > OS > was preinstalled it may not be moved even once. If it is a retail copy > it > may be moved as many times as needed as long as it is not installed on > more > than one computer at a time. > > Anytime Upgrade licenses were limited to one transfer until Vista SP1 > released. Those licenses have been changed in SP1 to allow transfer > with > the upgraded Windows if the upgraded Windows is itself transferrable. > > "Brian the King" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message > news:6f57631a945fa9617a6aecc9d1e4882b@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > > > > > > > All you can do is try. It may let you transfer the key over to your > > new > > > computer but, Vista is kind of finicky about that sort of thing.. > > > > > > Supposedly you can move your license from one computer to another, > > one > > > time only. So, again, it should work, but you'll just have to try and > > > see what it says. > > > > > > Edit: > > > Colin Barnhorst;758502 Wrote:> > > > > > > > >> If your Vista came preinstalled on your old machine then you cannot > > > use > > > >> the > > > >> product key any more. In particular it would not work with retail > > > >> copies of > > > >> Vista. Also, preinstalled Vista is not transferrable to another > > > >> computer > > > >> even if the old one dies. Preinstalled Vista and the computer are > > > one > > > >> product. > > > >> > > > >> If you purchased Vista at retail you may use it on your new > > > computer. > > > >> Just > > > >> how you go about doing that depends on what you are running on the > > > new > > > >> computer now and whether your retail copy of Vista is an upgrade > > > >> edition or > > > >> standard...> > > > > > > > Good call Colin, this would all be useful to know :p > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Brian the King > > -- Brian the King |
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| Subject: Re: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/25/2008 11:20:53 PM |
| From: Nonny [Email Address Protection] |
Brian the King <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: > >The 'one time only' thing did exist, but I had forgotten Microsoft >changed that a while after Vista was released. Thank you for correcting >me. Read his reply carefully "King". It never existed as you described it except in your royal imagination. > >Colin Barnhorst;758803 Wrote: >> There is no such thing as a one-time transfer for Windows OSs. If the >> OS >> was preinstalled it may not be moved even once. If it is a retail copy >> it >> may be moved as many times as needed as long as it is not installed on >> more >> than one computer at a time. >> >> Anytime Upgrade licenses were limited to one transfer until Vista SP1 >> released. Those licenses have been changed in SP1 to allow transfer >> with >> the upgraded Windows if the upgraded Windows is itself transferrable. >> >> "Brian the King" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message >> news:6f57631a945fa9617a6aecc9d1e4882b@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > >> > > >> > > All you can do is try. It may let you transfer the key over to your >> > new >> > > computer but, Vista is kind of finicky about that sort of thing.. >> > > >> > > Supposedly you can move your license from one computer to another, >> > one >> > > time only. So, again, it should work, but you'll just have to try and >> > > see what it says. >> > > >> > > Edit: >> > > Colin Barnhorst;758502 Wrote:> > > > > >> > > >> If your Vista came preinstalled on your old machine then you cannot >> > > use >> > > >> the >> > > >> product key any more. In particular it would not work with retail >> > > >> copies of >> > > >> Vista. Also, preinstalled Vista is not transferrable to another >> > > >> computer >> > > >> even if the old one dies. Preinstalled Vista and the computer are >> > > one >> > > >> product. >> > > >> >> > > >> If you purchased Vista at retail you may use it on your new >> > > computer. >> > > >> Just >> > > >> how you go about doing that depends on what you are running on the >> > > new >> > > >> computer now and whether your retail copy of Vista is an upgrade >> > > >> edition or >> > > >> standard...> > > > > >> > > Good call Colin, this would all be useful to know :p >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Brian the King > > |
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| Subject: Re: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/26/2008 8:49:43 AM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
I think he may be referring to a proposed one-time-rule during Vista beta 1. It actually appeared in the EULA that accompanied the early builds. The techbeta folks spotted it right away and raised holy hell because techbeta testers happen to also be the kind of technology entusiasts who like to keep up with hardware advances and so tend to move their copies of Windows several times. The outcry was such that MS relented and dropped making retail Vista a one-time-transfer license. You have more things to thank the techbeta testers for than just bug swatting. It was long gone by the time beta 2 released for public trial through the CPP in mid-2006. Unfortunately it was blogged during beta 1 (should not have been) by some techbeta folks and so reached the general public. The one hangover from all of that was in the Anytime Upgrade license but MS finally had to give that up too. So he was right and he was wrong. It was changed before, not after, Vista released. "Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f6d6645bst18k142g4khse0kiir52vlc54@4ax.com... > Brian the King <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: > >> >>The 'one time only' thing did exist, but I had forgotten Microsoft >>changed that a while after Vista was released. Thank you for correcting >>me. > > Read his reply carefully "King". It never existed as you described it > except in your royal imagination. > > >> >>Colin Barnhorst;758803 Wrote: >>> There is no such thing as a one-time transfer for Windows OSs. If the >>> OS >>> was preinstalled it may not be moved even once. If it is a retail copy >>> it >>> may be moved as many times as needed as long as it is not installed on >>> more >>> than one computer at a time. >>> >>> Anytime Upgrade licenses were limited to one transfer until Vista SP1 >>> released. Those licenses have been changed in SP1 to allow transfer >>> with >>> the upgraded Windows if the upgraded Windows is itself transferrable. >>> >>> "Brian the King" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message >>> news:6f57631a945fa9617a6aecc9d1e4882b@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > >>> > > >>> > > All you can do is try. It may let you transfer the key over to your >>> > new >>> > > computer but, Vista is kind of finicky about that sort of thing.. >>> > > >>> > > Supposedly you can move your license from one computer to another, >>> > one >>> > > time only. So, again, it should work, but you'll just have to try >>> > > and >>> > > see what it says. >>> > > >>> > > Edit: >>> > > Colin Barnhorst;758502 Wrote:> > > > > >>> > > >> If your Vista came preinstalled on your old machine then you >>> > > >> cannot >>> > > use >>> > > >> the >>> > > >> product key any more. In particular it would not work with >>> > > >> retail >>> > > >> copies of >>> > > >> Vista. Also, preinstalled Vista is not transferrable to another >>> > > >> computer >>> > > >> even if the old one dies. Preinstalled Vista and the computer >>> > > >> are >>> > > one >>> > > >> product. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> If you purchased Vista at retail you may use it on your new >>> > > computer. >>> > > >> Just >>> > > >> how you go about doing that depends on what you are running on >>> > > >> the >>> > > new >>> > > >> computer now and whether your retail copy of Vista is an upgrade >>> > > >> edition or >>> > > >> standard...> > > > > >>> > > Good call Colin, this would all be useful to know :p >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Brian the King > > |
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| Subject: Re: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/26/2008 9:37:48 AM |
| From: Brian the King [Email Address Protection] |
Nonny;759122 Wrote: > Brian the King <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >The 'one time only' thing did exist, but I had forgotten Microsoft > > >changed that a while after Vista was released. Thank you for > > correcting > > >me. > > Read his reply carefully "King". It never existed as you described it > except in your royal imagination. > > :sarc: I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to make a mistake on this forum. Please take my apology, I appear to have personally offended you. -- Brian the King |
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| Subject: Re: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/26/2008 10:18:21 AM |
| From: PD43 [Email Address Protection] |
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:49:43 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote: >I think he may be referring to a proposed one-time-rule during Vista beta 1. Thanks for the info, Colin... but IMO it doesn't look as if "the King" is that computer savvy. >It actually appeared in the EULA that accompanied the early builds. The >techbeta folks spotted it right away and raised holy hell because techbeta >testers happen to also be the kind of technology entusiasts who like to keep >up with hardware advances and so tend to move their copies of Windows >several times. The outcry was such that MS relented and dropped making >retail Vista a one-time-transfer license. You have more things to thank the >techbeta testers for than just bug swatting. > >It was long gone by the time beta 2 released for public trial through the >CPP in mid-2006. Unfortunately it was blogged during beta 1 (should not >have been) by some techbeta folks and so reached the general public. The >one hangover from all of that was in the Anytime Upgrade license but MS >finally had to give that up too. So he was right and he was wrong. It was >changed before, not after, Vista released. > >"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:f6d6645bst18k142g4khse0kiir52vlc54@4ax.com... >> Brian the King <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>The 'one time only' thing did exist, but I had forgotten Microsoft >>>changed that a while after Vista was released. Thank you for correcting >>>me. >> >> Read his reply carefully "King". It never existed as you described it >> except in your royal imagination. >> >> >>> >>>Colin Barnhorst;758803 Wrote: >>>> There is no such thing as a one-time transfer for Windows OSs. If the >>>> OS >>>> was preinstalled it may not be moved even once. If it is a retail copy >>>> it >>>> may be moved as many times as needed as long as it is not installed on >>>> more >>>> than one computer at a time. >>>> >>>> Anytime Upgrade licenses were limited to one transfer until Vista SP1 >>>> released. Those licenses have been changed in SP1 to allow transfer >>>> with >>>> the upgraded Windows if the upgraded Windows is itself transferrable. >>>> >>>> "Brian the King" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message >>>> news:6f57631a945fa9617a6aecc9d1e4882b@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > All you can do is try. It may let you transfer the key over to your >>>> > new >>>> > > computer but, Vista is kind of finicky about that sort of thing.. >>>> > > >>>> > > Supposedly you can move your license from one computer to another, >>>> > one >>>> > > time only. So, again, it should work, but you'll just have to try >>>> > > and >>>> > > see what it says. >>>> > > >>>> > > Edit: >>>> > > Colin Barnhorst;758502 Wrote:> > > > > >>>> > > >> If your Vista came preinstalled on your old machine then you >>>> > > >> cannot >>>> > > use >>>> > > >> the >>>> > > >> product key any more. In particular it would not work with >>>> > > >> retail >>>> > > >> copies of >>>> > > >> Vista. Also, preinstalled Vista is not transferrable to another >>>> > > >> computer >>>> > > >> even if the old one dies. Preinstalled Vista and the computer >>>> > > >> are >>>> > > one >>>> > > >> product. >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> If you purchased Vista at retail you may use it on your new >>>> > > computer. >>>> > > >> Just >>>> > > >> how you go about doing that depends on what you are running on >>>> > > >> the >>>> > > new >>>> > > >> computer now and whether your retail copy of Vista is an upgrade >>>> > > >> edition or >>>> > > >> standard...> > > > > >>>> > > Good call Colin, this would all be useful to know :p >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > Brian the King > > |
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| Subject: Re: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/26/2008 12:52:37 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
You never know what kinds of things folks read. It was prominently discussed on Paul Thurott's Supersite at the time and that is fairly widely read. "PD43" <pauld1943@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2pj764diju3cqbsojgfb5i6fts29sgbut3@4ax.com... > On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:49:43 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" > <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote: > >>I think he may be referring to a proposed one-time-rule during Vista beta >>1. > > Thanks for the info, Colin... but IMO it doesn't look as if "the King" > is that computer savvy. > >>It actually appeared in the EULA that accompanied the early builds. The >>techbeta folks spotted it right away and raised holy hell because techbeta >>testers happen to also be the kind of technology entusiasts who like to >>keep >>up with hardware advances and so tend to move their copies of Windows >>several times. The outcry was such that MS relented and dropped making >>retail Vista a one-time-transfer license. You have more things to thank >>the >>techbeta testers for than just bug swatting. >> >>It was long gone by the time beta 2 released for public trial through the >>CPP in mid-2006. Unfortunately it was blogged during beta 1 (should not >>have been) by some techbeta folks and so reached the general public. The >>one hangover from all of that was in the Anytime Upgrade license but MS >>finally had to give that up too. So he was right and he was wrong. It >>was >>changed before, not after, Vista released. >> >>"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:f6d6645bst18k142g4khse0kiir52vlc54@4ax.com... >>> Brian the King <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>The 'one time only' thing did exist, but I had forgotten Microsoft >>>>changed that a while after Vista was released. Thank you for correcting >>>>me. >>> >>> Read his reply carefully "King". It never existed as you described it >>> except in your royal imagination. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Colin Barnhorst;758803 Wrote: >>>>> There is no such thing as a one-time transfer for Windows OSs. If the >>>>> OS >>>>> was preinstalled it may not be moved even once. If it is a retail >>>>> copy >>>>> it >>>>> may be moved as many times as needed as long as it is not installed on >>>>> more >>>>> than one computer at a time. >>>>> >>>>> Anytime Upgrade licenses were limited to one transfer until Vista SP1 >>>>> released. Those licenses have been changed in SP1 to allow transfer >>>>> with >>>>> the upgraded Windows if the upgraded Windows is itself transferrable. >>>>> >>>>> "Brian the King" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:6f57631a945fa9617a6aecc9d1e4882b@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > All you can do is try. It may let you transfer the key over to >>>>> > > your >>>>> > new >>>>> > > computer but, Vista is kind of finicky about that sort of thing.. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Supposedly you can move your license from one computer to another, >>>>> > one >>>>> > > time only. So, again, it should work, but you'll just have to try >>>>> > > and >>>>> > > see what it says. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Edit: >>>>> > > Colin Barnhorst;758502 Wrote:> > > > > >>>>> > > >> If your Vista came preinstalled on your old machine then you >>>>> > > >> cannot >>>>> > > use >>>>> > > >> the >>>>> > > >> product key any more. In particular it would not work with >>>>> > > >> retail >>>>> > > >> copies of >>>>> > > >> Vista. Also, preinstalled Vista is not transferrable to >>>>> > > >> another >>>>> > > >> computer >>>>> > > >> even if the old one dies. Preinstalled Vista and the computer >>>>> > > >> are >>>>> > > one >>>>> > > >> product. >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> If you purchased Vista at retail you may use it on your new >>>>> > > computer. >>>>> > > >> Just >>>>> > > >> how you go about doing that depends on what you are running on >>>>> > > >> the >>>>> > > new >>>>> > > >> computer now and whether your retail copy of Vista is an >>>>> > > >> upgrade >>>>> > > >> edition or >>>>> > > >> standard...> > > > > >>>>> > > Good call Colin, this would all be useful to know :p >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > -- >>>>> > > Brian the King > > > |
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| Subject: Re: My old computer died |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/26/2008 12:53:30 PM |
| From: "Colin Barnhorst" [Email Address Protection] |
But read my reply to Nonny for some details about what really did happen. "Brian the King" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:2ff182db40c471c1a28a02650553d0c7@nntp-gateway.com... > > Nonny;759122 Wrote: >> Brian the King <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> > >The 'one time only' thing did exist, but I had forgotten Microsoft >> > >changed that a while after Vista was released. Thank you for >> > correcting >> > >me. > > Read his reply carefully "King". It never existed as you >> > >described it >> except in your royal imagination. >> >> > > :sarc: > > I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to make a mistake on this forum. > Please take my apology, I appear to have personally offended you. > > > -- > Brian the King |
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