| Subject: repartitioning Vista to dual boot with XP |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/22/2008 9:07:32 PM |
| From: "MATT" [Email Address Protection] |
Hi, I've got a Dell laptop, with Vista Home Premium, and I love it. I need to install XP as well, and make it a dual boot system, because I want to run some audio software using XP. Right now, my ~300GB drive is partitioned as follows: > 78MB: Healthy EISA partition, which I cannot delete using Disk Management. > RECOVERY: 10GB. > C: (Vista), using 12 out of 80 GB, haven't been able to shrink it further. > 80GB unallocated - this used to be in C:, then I shrank C: > DATA: 90GB > FREE SPACE: 40GB I want to create a new partition to install XP on, but cannot do so b/c I have four partitions already. I cannot delete the EISI partition - I would, but am unable to. What's my best approach here? Should I get a good disk partition software (Disk Magic isn't (yet) Vista-ready), move & resize my partitions as I want them, then install XP (and fix the MBR)? If so, any recommendations? Or should I backup everything and wipe the whole disk clean, then install XP, partitioning the drive into four parts (Recovery, VISTA, XP & DATA)? If I do that, I don't know if I can install Vista - Dell didn't include installation disks, they included recovery disks. Would I be able to use those disks to install Vista on a specific partition, or would they just wipe my disk clean and return it to factory install state? Many thanks! Matthew |
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| Subject: Re: repartitioning Vista to dual boot with XP |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/22/2008 9:44:42 PM |
| From: Jawade [Email Address Protection] |
Op Maandag 23 Juni 2008 00:07:32 -0400, schreef MATT <thetwamNOSPAM@yahoo.com> in artikel <eL5qxaO1IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>: > Hi, > > I've got a Dell laptop, with Vista Home Premium, and I love it. > > I need to install XP as well, and make it a dual boot system, because I want > to run some audio software using XP. > > Right now, my ~300GB drive is partitioned as follows: > > > 78MB: Healthy EISA partition, which I cannot delete using Disk Management. > > RECOVERY: 10GB. > > C: (Vista), using 12 out of 80 GB, haven't been able to shrink it further. > > 80GB unallocated - this used to be in C:, then I shrank C: > > DATA: 90GB > > FREE SPACE: 40GB > > I want to create a new partition to install XP on, but cannot do so b/c I > have four partitions already. I cannot delete the EISI partition - I would, > but am unable to. > > What's my best approach here? > > Should I get a good disk partition software (Disk Magic isn't (yet) > Vista-ready), move & resize my partitions as I want them, then install XP > (and fix the MBR)? If so, any recommendations? > > Or should I backup everything and wipe the whole disk clean, then install > XP, partitioning the drive into four parts (Recovery, VISTA, XP & DATA)? If > I do that, I don't know if I can install Vista - Dell didn't include > installation disks, they included recovery disks. Would I be able to use > those disks to install Vista on a specific partition, or would they just > wipe my disk clean and return it to factory install state? Kill one partition and make an extended partition, and in this you can make logical partitions as many as you like. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Jawade. MBR-rebuilders in DiskEdit! http://jawade.nl/ Met een mirror op http://jawade.fortunecity.com/ Bootmanager (+Vista +Linux), ClrMBR, DiskEdit (+Linux), POP3lezer, DOS-Filebrowser, Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, USB-stick tester. >>>>>>> Interesse in e-roken? Zie de groep alt.e-roken.nl <<<<<<<< |
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| Subject: Re: repartitioning Vista to dual boot with XP |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/23/2008 3:17:47 AM |
| From: "Rick Rogers" [Email Address Protection] |
Hi Matt, Have you considered using Virtual PC for your XP installlation? You won't need an extra partition for it, just the free software: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx An alternative, compatible partitioning utility would be BootIT NG from terabyteunlimited.com. As to your other question, you'd need a retail or generic OEM Vista install disk. The Dell recovery set, whether run from disk or recovery volume, just wipes out what's there and slaps the image down. There'd be no opportunity to set up a dual boot. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "MATT" <thetwamNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eL5qxaO1IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > I've got a Dell laptop, with Vista Home Premium, and I love it. > > I need to install XP as well, and make it a dual boot system, because I > want to run some audio software using XP. > > Right now, my ~300GB drive is partitioned as follows: > >> 78MB: Healthy EISA partition, which I cannot delete using Disk >> Management. >> RECOVERY: 10GB. >> C: (Vista), using 12 out of 80 GB, haven't been able to shrink it >> further. >> 80GB unallocated - this used to be in C:, then I shrank C: >> DATA: 90GB >> FREE SPACE: 40GB > > I want to create a new partition to install XP on, but cannot do so b/c I > have four partitions already. I cannot delete the EISI partition - I > would, but am unable to. > > What's my best approach here? > > Should I get a good disk partition software (Disk Magic isn't (yet) > Vista-ready), move & resize my partitions as I want them, then install XP > (and fix the MBR)? If so, any recommendations? > > Or should I backup everything and wipe the whole disk clean, then install > XP, partitioning the drive into four parts (Recovery, VISTA, XP & DATA)? > If I do that, I don't know if I can install Vista - Dell didn't include > installation disks, they included recovery disks. Would I be able to use > those disks to install Vista on a specific partition, or would they just > wipe my disk clean and return it to factory install state? > > Many thanks! > > Matthew |
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| Subject: Re: repartitioning Vista to dual boot with XP |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/24/2008 10:58:37 AM |
| From: "John Barnett MVP" [Email Address Protection] |
You could back up the contents of your Data partition and then delete it. Vista, by default, can create 3 primary partitions. The fourth will usually turn into an extended partition which can be subdivided into logical partitions. Third party partitioning software gives you more control over partitioning than Vista own disk management, so I would tend to use something like Paragon Hard Disk Manager suite 2008 or even Acronis Disk Director. Of course there are others, but I favour these two. If you don't want to go that far then a suitable alternative is using Virtualisation software. I run my copy of XP on virtual machine software and it works just fine for me. In my case I use VMware Workstation, however, this is rather expensive just for casual use. An alternative is Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 which is free. -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "MATT" <thetwamNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eL5qxaO1IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > I've got a Dell laptop, with Vista Home Premium, and I love it. > > I need to install XP as well, and make it a dual boot system, because I > want to run some audio software using XP. > > Right now, my ~300GB drive is partitioned as follows: > >> 78MB: Healthy EISA partition, which I cannot delete using Disk >> Management. >> RECOVERY: 10GB. >> C: (Vista), using 12 out of 80 GB, haven't been able to shrink it >> further. >> 80GB unallocated - this used to be in C:, then I shrank C: >> DATA: 90GB >> FREE SPACE: 40GB > > I want to create a new partition to install XP on, but cannot do so b/c I > have four partitions already. I cannot delete the EISI partition - I > would, but am unable to. > > What's my best approach here? > > Should I get a good disk partition software (Disk Magic isn't (yet) > Vista-ready), move & resize my partitions as I want them, then install XP > (and fix the MBR)? If so, any recommendations? > > Or should I backup everything and wipe the whole disk clean, then install > XP, partitioning the drive into four parts (Recovery, VISTA, XP & DATA)? > If I do that, I don't know if I can install Vista - Dell didn't include > installation disks, they included recovery disks. Would I be able to use > those disks to install Vista on a specific partition, or would they just > wipe my disk clean and return it to factory install state? > > Many thanks! > > Matthew |
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| Subject: Re: repartitioning Vista to dual boot with XP |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/24/2008 1:09:18 PM |
| From: "Timothy Daniels" [Email Address Protection] |
"John Barnett MVP" wrote: > You could back up the contents of your Data partition and then delete it. > Vista, by default, can create 3 primary partitions. The fourth will usually > turn into an extended partition which can be subdivided into logical > partitions. Third party partitioning software gives you more control over > partitioning than Vista own disk management, so I would tend to use something > like Paragon Hard Disk Manager suite 2008 or even Acronis > Disk Director. Of course there are others, but I favour these two. Read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931760 and http://www.multibooters.co.uk/partitions.html . Mixing Vista/WinPE/Win2008 Server partitioning and pre-Vista (and 3rd party) partitioning is dangerous. *TimDaniels* |
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| Subject: Re: repartitioning Vista to dual boot with XP |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/24/2008 4:10:00 PM |
| From: "John Barnett MVP" [Email Address Protection] |
3rd party partitioning software work far better than anything that Microsoft has included in Vista. Any problems I have had have been quickly sorted using a 3rd party application whereas Vista's own disk management hit a brick wall and couldn't even partition properly. -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message news:uDwirYj1IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "John Barnett MVP" wrote: >> You could back up the contents of your Data partition and then delete it. >> Vista, by default, can create 3 primary partitions. The fourth will >> usually turn into an extended partition which can be subdivided into >> logical partitions. Third party partitioning software gives you more >> control over partitioning than Vista own disk management, so I would tend >> to use something like Paragon Hard Disk Manager suite 2008 or even >> Acronis >> Disk Director. Of course there are others, but I favour these two. > > Read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931760 and > http://www.multibooters.co.uk/partitions.html . > Mixing Vista/WinPE/Win2008 Server partitioning > and pre-Vista (and 3rd party) partitioning is dangerous. > > *TimDaniels* > |
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| Subject: Re: repartitioning Vista to dual boot with XP |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup |
| Date: 6/26/2008 4:03:33 PM |
| From: "Timothy Daniels" [Email Address Protection] |
The Linux partition editor, Gparted, works well as both a live CD and as a live USB stick (if you have a recent system that can boot from USB devices). If you're going to be doing a lot of partition-creating/deleting, image or clone the Vista installed OS to CD or external HD or 2nd internal HD, delete the Vista partition, remake the Vista partition with Gparted, then copy the archived Vista OS back into the newly made partition and run "bootrec /rebuildbcd" using the command prompt on the Vista Recovery Console (in the Vista installation DVD) to fix up the BCD. Then proceed, using Gparted in place of Vista's Disk Management for partition management. You'd be amazed at how well Gparted works. You can start here to reach the download pages for Gparted live CD and live USB: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ . For my Dell XPS M1330 laptop, I had to select "1" (for "Medium Experienced User"), and then I selected "No" for "Allow automatic video detection" to make the graphics card work with the live USB. All the rest of the options can be the default. *TimDaniels* "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:2565F29B-9FFA-4054-8788-892C9F09EEBA@microsoft.com... > 3rd party partitioning software work far better than anything that Microsoft > has included in Vista. Any problems I have had have been quickly sorted using > a 3rd party application whereas Vista's own disk management hit a brick wall > and couldn't even partition properly. > > -- > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Associate Expert > Windows Desktop Experience > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org > > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this > mail/post.. > > > "Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message > news:uDwirYj1IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> "John Barnett MVP" wrote: >>> You could back up the contents of your Data partition and then delete it. >>> Vista, by default, can create 3 primary partitions. The fourth will usually >>> turn into an extended partition which can be subdivided into logical >>> partitions. Third party partitioning software gives you more control over >>> partitioning than Vista own disk management, so I would tend to use >>> something like Paragon Hard Disk Manager suite 2008 or even Acronis >>> Disk Director. Of course there are others, but I favour these two. >> >> Read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931760 and >> http://www.multibooters.co.uk/partitions.html . >> Mixing Vista/WinPE/Win2008 Server partitioning >> and pre-Vista (and 3rd party) partitioning is dangerous. >> >> *TimDaniels* >> |
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