| Subject: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/15/2008 1:18:01 PM |
| From: =?Utf-8?B?YmFsdHN0ZXZl?= [Email Address Protection] |
When I power up, I get a security alert saying my antivirus software may not be installed. Then, later I get a popup from Norton saying Windows Firewall has been turned on. Do u want to use Norton Internet Security instead of Windows Firewall? My Windows Firewall had always been turned on. This started the other day after I did salvagerepository to fix something else. Does Windows Vista recognize Norton? How do I stop these from popping up? Also, my free subscription to norton ends in a week? Any suggestions to replace it? |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/15/2008 1:25:12 PM |
| From: "Carey Frisch [MVP]" [Email Address Protection] |
For maximum protection, consider installing a comprehensive anti-virus/security program, such as Windows OneCare. You can try it FREE for 90 days. http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- "baltsteve" <baltsteve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E9726246-197B-4AB2-9CBD-07925FEA8156@microsoft.com... When I power up, I get a security alert saying my antivirus software may not be installed. Then, later I get a popup from Norton saying Windows Firewall has been turned on. Do u want to use Norton Internet Security instead of Windows Firewall? My Windows Firewall had always been turned on. This started the other day after I did salvagerepository to fix something else. Does Windows Vista recognize Norton? How do I stop these from popping up? Also, my free subscription to norton ends in a week? Any suggestions to replace it? |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/15/2008 1:51:03 PM |
| From: "Charlie42" [Email Address Protection] |
"baltsteve" <baltsteve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > When I power up, I get a security alert saying my antivirus software > may not be installed. Then, later I get a popup from Norton saying > Windows Firewall has been turned on. Do u want to use Norton > Internet Security instead of Windows Firewall? My Windows Firewall > had always been turned on. This started the other day after I did > salvagerepository to fix something else. Does Windows Vista recognize > Norton? How do I stop these from popping up? Norton integrates with Vista Security Center. The repository salvage procedure quite likely reset repository defaults, causing Security Center not to recognise Norton. The standard remedy for this problem is running "sfc /scannow" (yep, kind of ironic). As for the firewall, you need to enable one of them. Do not run both simultaneously, pick the one you prefer. Two or more fw's are likely to conflict, and may cause instability and connection problems. You will find the enable/disable options in Norton's main window and Vista's Security Center. Should you decide to go with Vista's firewall, Norton will keep nagging you with a nice red X, which you can safely ignore. > Also, my free subscription to norton ends in a week? Any suggestions Yes. Do not renew. Norton really is not the best anti-malware around, plus it is bloated and leaves a huge footprint on your system. In this newsgroup (and in ...vista.security) there have been many discussions on which security software is the best. Do a search and read the threads for advice. If you are looking for a free solution, AVG Anti-Virus and avast! are both popular and perfectly good programs. For a free firewall, you can download Comodo Pro, but imo. most home users are sufficiently protected by the built-in one in Windows Vista. Keep Windows Defender enabled and run regular scans with an additional anti-spyware, there are good free ones available. Also remember to enable your router firewall if you have one. Search Windows Vista newsgroups: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/community/default.mspx AVG 8.0 free anti-virus: http://free.grisoft.com/ avast! free anti-virus: http://www.avast.com/ Comodo Firewall Pro (free): http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/index.html Charlie42 |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/15/2008 1:58:35 PM |
| From: "Charlie42" [Email Address Protection] |
"Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not> wrote: > Yes. Do not renew. Norton really is not the best anti-malware around, > plus it is bloated and leaves a huge footprint on your system. This link is to Symantec's Norton Removal Tool: http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039 Run it at least two times, each time reboot after it has finished, before you attempt to install your new anti-virus. Even Symantec's own tool struggles to rid a computer of all Norton residue. Charlie42 |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/15/2008 3:23:58 PM |
| From: "Bob" [Email Address Protection] |
Replace Norton with the free AVG http://free.grisoft.com/ or Avast http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html, and Windows Firewall and Windows Defender. Norton is known to cause many problems which don’t always appear immediately. Be sure to download and run the Norton Removal Tool. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039 "baltsteve" <baltsteve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E9726246-197B-4AB2-9CBD-07925FEA8156@microsoft.com... > When I power up, I get a security alert saying my antivirus software may > not > be installed. Then, later I get a popup from Norton saying Windows > Firewall > has been turned on. Do u want to use Norton Internet Security instead of > Windows Firewall? My Windows Firewall had always been turned on. This > started > the other day after I did salvagerepository to fix something else. Does > Windows Vista recognize Norton? How do I stop these from popping up? Also, > my > free subscription to norton ends in a week? Any suggestions to replace it? |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/15/2008 10:15:10 PM |
| From: "LesleyO " [Email Address Protection] |
"Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not> wrote in message news:eYkll1stIHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "baltsteve" <baltsteve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> When I power up, I get a security alert saying my antivirus software >> may not be installed. Then, later I get a popup from Norton saying >> Windows Firewall has been turned on. Do u want to use Norton >> Internet Security instead of Windows Firewall? My Windows Firewall >> had always been turned on. This started the other day after I did >> salvagerepository to fix something else. Does Windows Vista recognize >> Norton? How do I stop these from popping up? > > Norton integrates with Vista Security Center. The repository salvage > procedure quite likely reset repository defaults, causing Security Center > not to recognise Norton. The standard remedy for this problem is running > "sfc /scannow" (yep, kind of ironic). > > As for the firewall, you need to enable one of them. Do not run both > simultaneously, pick the one you prefer. Two or more fw's are likely to > conflict, and may cause instability and connection problems. You will find > the enable/disable options in Norton's main window and Vista's Security > Center. > > Should you decide to go with Vista's firewall, Norton will keep nagging > you with a nice red X, which you can safely ignore. > >> Also, my free subscription to norton ends in a week? Any suggestions > > Yes. Do not renew. Norton really is not the best anti-malware around, plus > it is bloated and leaves a huge footprint on your system. In this > newsgroup (and in ...vista.security) there have been many discussions on > which security software is the best. Do a search and read the threads for > advice. > > If you are looking for a free solution, AVG Anti-Virus and avast! are both > popular and perfectly good programs. For a free firewall, you can download > Comodo Pro, but imo. most home users are sufficiently protected by the > built-in one in Windows Vista. > > Keep Windows Defender enabled and run regular scans with an additional > anti-spyware, there are good free ones available. Also remember to enable > your router firewall if you have one. > > Search Windows Vista newsgroups: > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/community/default.mspx > AVG 8.0 free anti-virus: > http://free.grisoft.com/ > avast! free anti-virus: > http://www.avast.com/ > Comodo Firewall Pro (free): > http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/index.html > > Charlie42 I've wondered about how good Avast! is, as I know someone who swears it's good, yet he's had viruses twice in the last year. Yet I, using NIS (most recent), have had none. Makes me wonder. LesleyON |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/16/2008 12:45:25 AM |
| From: "SG" [Email Address Protection] |
LesleyON, No Virus Software can catch every virus out there and their only as good as their definitions. It's not that NIS is bad for missing Viruses, it's the total integration with the system and the fact NIS has messed up thousands of systems. You are one of the lucky ones and if it works for you go for it. I used AVG for years and not long ago I switched to Avast because AVG is getting bloated and more and more we are seeing threads about the newest version messing up more systems. So far Avast IMO is written very good, it has on demand options to turn off certain features without having to uninstall and re-install. The biggest problem I see with some of these Virus Software Company's is they are integrating to much junk in a package deal and it's becoming pathetic. From a business standpoint I can see their side, but not from a user standpoint. These total package's that include Virus, Spyware, Firewall and who knows what else IMO is going to be the downfall to many of these company's. I work and have worked of thousands of machines and the first thing I tell any new customer is if you have Norton or MacAfee on their system it's coming off or they can take it elsewhere. I know that's sounds blunt, but I refuse to clean up this mess before I get into other problems these systems have. -- All the best, SG Is your computer system ready for Vista? https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/ Want to keep up with the latest news from MS? http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t Just type in Microsoft "LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message news:%23ZwcRPxtIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not> wrote in message > news:eYkll1stIHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> "baltsteve" <baltsteve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >>> When I power up, I get a security alert saying my antivirus software >>> may not be installed. Then, later I get a popup from Norton saying >>> Windows Firewall has been turned on. Do u want to use Norton >>> Internet Security instead of Windows Firewall? My Windows Firewall >>> had always been turned on. This started the other day after I did >>> salvagerepository to fix something else. Does Windows Vista recognize >>> Norton? How do I stop these from popping up? >> >> Norton integrates with Vista Security Center. The repository salvage >> procedure quite likely reset repository defaults, causing Security Center >> not to recognise Norton. The standard remedy for this problem is running >> "sfc /scannow" (yep, kind of ironic). >> >> As for the firewall, you need to enable one of them. Do not run both >> simultaneously, pick the one you prefer. Two or more fw's are likely to >> conflict, and may cause instability and connection problems. You will >> find the enable/disable options in Norton's main window and Vista's >> Security Center. >> >> Should you decide to go with Vista's firewall, Norton will keep nagging >> you with a nice red X, which you can safely ignore. >> >>> Also, my free subscription to norton ends in a week? Any suggestions >> >> Yes. Do not renew. Norton really is not the best anti-malware around, >> plus it is bloated and leaves a huge footprint on your system. In this >> newsgroup (and in ...vista.security) there have been many discussions on >> which security software is the best. Do a search and read the threads for >> advice. >> >> If you are looking for a free solution, AVG Anti-Virus and avast! are >> both popular and perfectly good programs. For a free firewall, you can >> download Comodo Pro, but imo. most home users are sufficiently protected >> by the built-in one in Windows Vista. >> >> Keep Windows Defender enabled and run regular scans with an additional >> anti-spyware, there are good free ones available. Also remember to enable >> your router firewall if you have one. >> >> Search Windows Vista newsgroups: >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/community/default.mspx >> AVG 8.0 free anti-virus: >> http://free.grisoft.com/ >> avast! free anti-virus: >> http://www.avast.com/ >> Comodo Firewall Pro (free): >> http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/index.html >> >> Charlie42 > > I've wondered about how good Avast! is, as I know someone who swears it's > good, yet he's had viruses twice in the last year. Yet I, using NIS (most > recent), have had none. Makes me wonder. > LesleyON |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/16/2008 11:37:35 AM |
| From: "Charlie42" [Email Address Protection] |
"LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote: > I've wondered about how good Avast! is, as I know someone who > swears it's good, yet he's had viruses twice in the last year. Yet I, > using > NIS (most recent), have had none. Makes me wonder. Like SG mentioned, no anti-virus has a 100% detection rate. Generally, the free AV solutions perform surprisingly well in tests. Symantec products also have ok test results. Take a look at these sites: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/ The major Norton criticisms are related to stability and footprint, the most common problem being slow-downs because of the massive system resources Norton hogs. There are products on the market with equal or better test results than Symantec's products, consuming less resources at a lower price (even free ones). Charlie42 |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/16/2008 2:32:55 PM |
| From: "Not Me" [Email Address Protection] |
My wife's computer came with a free trial of Norton. When it expired, I removed it and installed AVG. The initial scan found 4 viruses that Norton had missed. Just because Norton says you're OK doesn't make it so. -- A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here! CarGodZeroOne@hotmail.com Change Alpha to Numeric to reply "LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message news:#ZwcRPxtIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not> wrote in message > news:eYkll1stIHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> "baltsteve" <baltsteve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >>> When I power up, I get a security alert saying my antivirus software >>> may not be installed. Then, later I get a popup from Norton saying >>> Windows Firewall has been turned on. Do u want to use Norton >>> Internet Security instead of Windows Firewall? My Windows Firewall >>> had always been turned on. This started the other day after I did >>> salvagerepository to fix something else. Does Windows Vista recognize >>> Norton? How do I stop these from popping up? >> >> Norton integrates with Vista Security Center. The repository salvage >> procedure quite likely reset repository defaults, causing Security Center >> not to recognise Norton. The standard remedy for this problem is running >> "sfc /scannow" (yep, kind of ironic). >> >> As for the firewall, you need to enable one of them. Do not run both >> simultaneously, pick the one you prefer. Two or more fw's are likely to >> conflict, and may cause instability and connection problems. You will >> find the enable/disable options in Norton's main window and Vista's >> Security Center. >> >> Should you decide to go with Vista's firewall, Norton will keep nagging >> you with a nice red X, which you can safely ignore. >> >>> Also, my free subscription to norton ends in a week? Any suggestions >> >> Yes. Do not renew. Norton really is not the best anti-malware around, >> plus it is bloated and leaves a huge footprint on your system. In this >> newsgroup (and in ...vista.security) there have been many discussions on >> which security software is the best. Do a search and read the threads for >> advice. >> >> If you are looking for a free solution, AVG Anti-Virus and avast! are >> both popular and perfectly good programs. For a free firewall, you can >> download Comodo Pro, but imo. most home users are sufficiently protected >> by the built-in one in Windows Vista. >> >> Keep Windows Defender enabled and run regular scans with an additional >> anti-spyware, there are good free ones available. Also remember to enable >> your router firewall if you have one. >> >> Search Windows Vista newsgroups: >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/community/default.mspx >> AVG 8.0 free anti-virus: >> http://free.grisoft.com/ >> avast! free anti-virus: >> http://www.avast.com/ >> Comodo Firewall Pro (free): >> http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/index.html >> >> Charlie42 > > I've wondered about how good Avast! is, as I know someone who swears it's > good, yet he's had viruses twice in the last year. Yet I, using NIS (most > recent), have had none. Makes me wonder. > LesleyON |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/16/2008 9:19:13 PM |
| From: Kayman [Email Address Protection] |
On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:25:12 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: > For maximum protection, consider installing > a comprehensive anti-virus/security program, such as > Windows OneCare. You can try it FREE for 90 days. > http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm Your enthusiasm is admirable but your statement is IMO exaggerated and does not reflect the (independent) reports I've been reading. The reports (admittedly) are somewhat dated and you may be privileged to the latest evaluation results of WOC. Would you please submit these results to this newsgroup? TIA. |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/17/2008 6:20:39 PM |
| From: Frank [Email Address Protection] |
Not Me wrote: > I installed AVG 8 free on a Vista machine yesterday. > It uninstalls the older version as part of the install process. > That's simply astonishing! What is an avowed Vista hater like you doing anywhere near Vista? Frank |
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| Subject: Re: Windows Firewall or Norton |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general |
| Date: 5/18/2008 3:25:56 AM |
| From: Kayman [Email Address Protection] |
On Sat, 17 May 2008 14:58:00 -0700, silver hair wrote: > hello > thank you for all that info on this tread > my AVG free 7.5 all so expires on May the 31 st > and there is a avg 8 free available that I will install > 2 questions > Do I need to uninstall avg 7.5 first? > I guess so, if so > Do I need to down load a Removal tool ? > to remove it properly > if so, where can I find it? How to remove AVG Free Antivirus http://askabouttech.com/how-to-remove-avg-free-antivirus/ |
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