| Subject: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an extended. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 5/8/2008 5:56:00 AM |
| From: =?Utf-8?B?dW13aGF0?= [Email Address Protection] |
....partition and I did not tell it to....that is funny isn't it?...anyway...the harddrive is a 320GB Sata 3.0GB/sec harddrive and has 2 partitions, 1 @ 278GB and 1 @ 20GB with the backed up files left over from a Windows XP installation and the files I used to install the drivers for 64 Bit Professional. The 278GB partition is labled D: and the small partition is labelled C: which after my mere 4 years of computing leaves me feeling somewhat disappointed, mostly because I think the first partition should be labelled C: and the smaller partition I think should be labelled D: . ....the next bit is supposed to be a joke and has nothing to do with my question... ...I would like to add...lol...how pleased I am this evening that the internet connection rates I am experiencing are keeping me up all the hours of today and alot of the hours tomorrow downloading and simply enjoying very fast internet. This phenomenon is due I think to the fact that I put the burgular alarm filter in the telephone socket on the wall where the burgular alarm plugs in and put the filter intended for the SkyTV digital television decoder and its telephony functions into the telephone wall socket that has the broadband router we use. The download rate is now a wonderful 1200Kbps which is about 2 and 3 times faster than the rates we were experiencing 'til this wonderful day. -- ....scribble...scribble...scribble... |
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| Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an extended. |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 5/8/2008 6:54:36 AM |
| From: Bobby Johnson [Email Address Protection] |
Maybe I missed it, but what is your question? umwhat wrote: > ...partition and I did not tell it to....that is funny isn't > it?...anyway...the harddrive is a 320GB Sata 3.0GB/sec harddrive and has 2 > partitions, 1 @ 278GB and 1 @ 20GB with the backed up files left over from a > Windows XP installation and the files I used to install the drivers for 64 > Bit Professional. > The 278GB partition is labled D: and the small partition is labelled C: > which after my mere 4 years of computing leaves me feeling somewhat > disappointed, mostly because I think the first partition should be labelled > C: and the smaller partition I think should be labelled D: . > > ...the next bit is supposed to be a joke and has nothing to do with my > question... > > ...I would like to add...lol...how pleased I am this evening that the > internet connection rates I am experiencing are keeping me up all the hours > of today and alot of the hours tomorrow downloading and simply enjoying very > fast internet. This phenomenon is due I think to the fact that I put the > burgular alarm filter in the telephone socket on the wall where the burgular > alarm plugs in and put the filter intended for the SkyTV digital television > decoder and its telephony functions into the telephone wall socket that has > the broadband router we use. The download rate is now a wonderful 1200Kbps > which is about 2 and 3 times faster than the rates we were experiencing 'til > this wonderful day. > > > > > > |
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| Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an exten |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 5/8/2008 6:32:24 PM |
| From: Darrellg@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell Gorter[MSFT]") |
Hello, Correct. If you boot to the CD to do CD\DVD to do an installation with Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 ( Either 32-bit or 64-bit) The local hard drive volumes are enumerated and assigned drive letters. The first active primary partition it finds it given drive letter C. If a volume exists it gets a drive letter, if you create a new volume it gets the next available drive letter. Setup does not reallocate hard drive letters, so if you delete a volume, that drive letter is reserved in that setup session. Even if you create a new volume, that new volume gets the next free drive letter. The existing drive letters are available after setup completes or if you reboot to the CD\DVD Drive Letter C, Windows doesn't care like R.C states. The majority of customers do not care. However a very small number of people care and care in different ways. Some want the drive to always be C:, some do not want it to be C: If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary active partition on the drive when you run setup. Changing it after the OS is installed would cause any number or problems with the OS. There are references to the installed drive letter throughout the system. Each of those would have to be changed for the system to work properly. The default for setup is to create a primary partition as the first partition and create an Extended partition if a primary already exists on the system. Thanks, Darrell Gorter[MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights -------------------- | >From: "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> | >References: <A5315B2F-1D31-4DB4-BB76-E7DEA548021A@microsoft.com> <uwyDWMRsIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com> | >Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an exten | >Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:17:52 -0500 | >Lines: 1 | >Message-ID: <F763D2C7-D6FF-49DF-A215-EE01210EF823@microsoft.com> | >MIME-Version: 1.0 | >Content-Type: text/plain; | > format=flowed; | > charset="UTF-8"; | > reply-type=original | >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | >X-Priority: 3 | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal | >Importance: Normal | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-PostID: {F763D2C7-D6FF-49DF-A215-EE01210EF823} | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-ThreadID: A5315B2F-1D31-4DB4-BB76-E7DEA548021A | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-ParentID: D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general | >Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:17320 | >NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1 | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general | > | >Hi, umwhat. | > | >WinXP or Vista don't much care whether they are on a primary partition or on | >a logical drive in an extended partition. And they don't care if they are | >installed on Drive C: or Drive D: or Drive X:. They go where YOU tell them, | >even if you are sleepwalking at the time and don't pay attention to the | >dialog boxes. | > | >Once installed, there is no way for us mere mortals to change the drive | >letters for the System Partition or the Boot Volume short of starting over | >and installing again. | > | >You might want to read a couple of KB articles: | >Definitions for system volume and boot volume | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/314470/EN-US/ | > | >You cannot change the system volume drive letter after Setup | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;223769 | > | >Disk Management will let us change the other drive letters, but not the | >System Partition and, if different, the Boot Volume. | > | >RC | >-- | >R. C. White, CPA | >San Marcos, TX | >rc@grandecom.net | >Microsoft Windows MVP | >(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) | > | >"umwhat" <mesomewhere@someotherplace.com> wrote in message | >news:D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com... | >> I t seems odd thWindows should install to a D: drive when I would think it | >> would default install to a C: drive. Why has it done this and why did the | >> installation make an extended partition and not a primary partition. | >> From what I have seen I can not change the drive letters I could make D: | >> drive a Dynamic Partition but would that help make it into the C: drive. | >> | >> | >> -- | >> ...scribble...scribble...scribble... | >> | >> | >> "Bobby Johnson" wrote: | >> | >>> Maybe I missed it, but what is your question? | >>> | >>> | >>> umwhat wrote: | >>> > ...partition and I did not tell it to....that is funny isn't | >>> > it?...anyway...the harddrive is a 320GB Sata 3.0GB/sec harddrive and | >>> > has 2 | >>> > partitions, 1 @ 278GB and 1 @ 20GB with the backed up files left over | >>> > from a | >>> > Windows XP installation and the files I used to install the drivers for | >>> > 64 | >>> > Bit Professional. | >>> > The 278GB partition is labled D: and the small partition is labelled | >>> > C: | >>> > which after my mere 4 years of computing leaves me feeling somewhat | >>> > disappointed, mostly because I think the first partition should be | >>> > labelled | >>> > C: and the smaller partition I think should be labelled D: . | ><SNIP> | > | > |
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| Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an exten |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 5/9/2008 8:07:51 AM |
| From: "R. C. White" [Email Address Protection] |
Hi, Darrell. Thanks for jumping in! ;<) I'd like to remind the OP that you said, "If you boot to the... CD\DVD to do an installation..." The results are different if you run Vista Setup from within WinXP. (My mindset is Vista and I kind of forgot that the OP said WinXP x64.) Later, you said: > If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary active > partition on the drive when you run setup. Often there are more than one hard drive, and sometimes they are a mix of IDE (PATA)/SATA/SCSI/USB... In this situation, the BIOS and the operating system can disagree as to which is "the drive when you run setup." :>( Since I have only one computer and Vista has been very stable, I've not had to reinstall Vista since I rebuilt my system over a year ago. But I recall the many reinstalls during the long beta period. I still have several multi-boots installed, but seldom boot into anything but Vista Ultimate x64, which is in Drive C:, the first logical drive in the extended partition on my second HD. Each of my 3 HDs has a System Partition, but I seldom use any other than Drive D:, which is the first (only) primary active partition on that second HD. My WinXP refused to boot at about the time Vista went RTM and all my sporadic attempts to revive it with a repair install have failed, so I haven't run WinXP in a year and a half. When WinXP w/SP3 arrives Real Soon Now, I may try the repair install again. I do boot into a separate WinXP x64 occasionally, just to be sure I still can. Note that it is NOT necessary for WinXP and Vista to agree on which volume is Drive C:, or any other letter. Each operating system keeps its own letter assignments. But I've made sure that they agree that my WinXP is in Drive F:, the first logical drive in the extended partition on my first HD. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:Ts56JSXsIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... > Hello, > Correct. > If you boot to the CD to do CD\DVD to do an installation with Windows XP > or > Windows Server 2003 ( Either 32-bit or 64-bit) > The local hard drive volumes are enumerated and assigned drive letters. > The first active primary partition it finds it given drive letter C. > If a volume exists it gets a drive letter, if you create a new volume it > gets the next available drive letter. > Setup does not reallocate hard drive letters, so if you delete a volume, > that drive letter is reserved in that setup session. > Even if you create a new volume, that new volume gets the next free drive > letter. The existing drive letters are available after setup completes or > if you reboot to the CD\DVD > > Drive Letter C, > Windows doesn't care like R.C states. > The majority of customers do not care. > However a very small number of people care and care in different ways. > Some want the drive to always be C:, some do not want it to be C: > If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary active > partition on the drive when you run setup. > > Changing it after the OS is installed would cause any number or problems > with the OS. > There are references to the installed drive letter throughout the system. > Each of those would have to be changed for the system to work properly. > > The default for setup is to create a primary partition as the first > partition and create an Extended partition if a primary already exists on > the system. > Thanks, > Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > <SNIP> > | > > | >Hi, umwhat. > | > > | >WinXP or Vista don't much care whether they are on a primary partition > or on > | >a logical drive in an extended partition. And they don't care if they > are > | >installed on Drive C: or Drive D: or Drive X:. They go where YOU tell > them, > | >even if you are sleepwalking at the time and don't pay attention to the > | >dialog boxes. > | > > | >Once installed, there is no way for us mere mortals to change the drive > | >letters for the System Partition or the Boot Volume short of starting > over > | >and installing again. > | > > | >You might want to read a couple of KB articles: > | >Definitions for system volume and boot volume > | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/314470/EN-US/ > | > > | >You cannot change the system volume drive letter after Setup > | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;223769 > | > > | >Disk Management will let us change the other drive letters, but not the > | >System Partition and, if different, the Boot Volume. > | > > | >RC > | > > | >"umwhat" <mesomewhere@someotherplace.com> wrote in message > | >news:D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com... > | >> I t seems odd thWindows should install to a D: drive when I would > think it > | >> would default install to a C: drive. Why has it done this and why did > the > | >> installation make an extended partition and not a primary partition. > | >> From what I have seen I can not change the drive letters I could make > D: > | >> drive a Dynamic Partition but would that help make it into the C: > drive. > | >> > | >> > | >> -- > | >> ...scribble...scribble...scribble... > | >> > | >> > | >> "Bobby Johnson" wrote: > | >> > | >>> Maybe I missed it, but what is your question? > | >>> > | >>> > | >>> umwhat wrote: > | >>> > ...partition and I did not tell it to....that is funny isn't > | >>> > it?...anyway...the harddrive is a 320GB Sata 3.0GB/sec harddrive > and > | >>> > has 2 > | >>> > partitions, 1 @ 278GB and 1 @ 20GB with the backed up files left > over > | >>> > from a > | >>> > Windows XP installation and the files I used to install the > drivers > for > | >>> > 64 > | >>> > Bit Professional. > | >>> > The 278GB partition is labled D: and the small partition is > labelled > | >>> > C: > | >>> > which after my mere 4 years of computing leaves me feeling > somewhat > | >>> > disappointed, mostly because I think the first partition should be > | >>> > labelled > | >>> > C: and the smaller partition I think should be labelled D: . > | ><SNIP> |
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| Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an exten |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 5/10/2008 3:44:59 PM |
| From: Darrellg@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell Gorter[MSFT]") |
Hello R.C. Good reminders Thanks, Darrell Gorter[MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights -------------------- | >From: "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> | >References: <A5315B2F-1D31-4DB4-BB76-E7DEA548021A@microsoft.com> <uwyDWMRsIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com> <F763D2C7-D6FF-49DF-A215-EE01210EF823@microsoft.com> <Ts56JSXsIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | >Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an exten | >Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:07:51 -0500 | >Lines: 1 | >Message-ID: <6331A78E-689C-416C-B3CD-56076E10DC82@microsoft.com> | >MIME-Version: 1.0 | >Content-Type: text/plain; | > format=flowed; | > charset="iso-8859-1"; | > reply-type=original | >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | >X-Priority: 3 | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal | >Importance: Normal | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-PostID: {6331A78E-689C-416C-B3CD-56076E10DC82} | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-ThreadID: A5315B2F-1D31-4DB4-BB76-E7DEA548021A | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-ParentID: AAD45698-AF82-4CAF-88BC-0AC9EF7D8048 | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general | >Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:17342 | >NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1 | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general | > | >Hi, Darrell. | > | >Thanks for jumping in! ;<) | > | >I'd like to remind the OP that you said, "If you boot to the... CD\DVD to do | >an installation..." The results are different if you run Vista Setup from | >within WinXP. (My mindset is Vista and I kind of forgot that the OP said | >WinXP x64.) | > | >Later, you said: | >> If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary active | >> partition on the drive when you run setup. | > | >Often there are more than one hard drive, and sometimes they are a mix of | >IDE (PATA)/SATA/SCSI/USB... In this situation, the BIOS and the operating | >system can disagree as to which is "the drive when you run setup." :>( | > | >Since I have only one computer and Vista has been very stable, I've not had | >to reinstall Vista since I rebuilt my system over a year ago. But I recall | >the many reinstalls during the long beta period. I still have several | >multi-boots installed, but seldom boot into anything but Vista Ultimate x64, | >which is in Drive C:, the first logical drive in the extended partition on | >my second HD. Each of my 3 HDs has a System Partition, but I seldom use any | >other than Drive D:, which is the first (only) primary active partition on | >that second HD. My WinXP refused to boot at about the time Vista went RTM | >and all my sporadic attempts to revive it with a repair install have failed, | >so I haven't run WinXP in a year and a half. When WinXP w/SP3 arrives Real | >Soon Now, I may try the repair install again. I do boot into a separate | >WinXP x64 occasionally, just to be sure I still can. | > | >Note that it is NOT necessary for WinXP and Vista to agree on which volume | >is Drive C:, or any other letter. Each operating system keeps its own | >letter assignments. But I've made sure that they agree that my WinXP is in | >Drive F:, the first logical drive in the extended partition on my first HD. | > | >RC | >-- | >R. C. White, CPA | >San Marcos, TX | >rc@grandecom.net | >Microsoft Windows MVP | >(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) | > | >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message | >news:Ts56JSXsIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... | >> Hello, | >> Correct. | >> If you boot to the CD to do CD\DVD to do an installation with Windows XP | >> or | >> Windows Server 2003 ( Either 32-bit or 64-bit) | >> The local hard drive volumes are enumerated and assigned drive letters. | >> The first active primary partition it finds it given drive letter C. | >> If a volume exists it gets a drive letter, if you create a new volume it | >> gets the next available drive letter. | >> Setup does not reallocate hard drive letters, so if you delete a volume, | >> that drive letter is reserved in that setup session. | >> Even if you create a new volume, that new volume gets the next free drive | >> letter. The existing drive letters are available after setup completes or | >> if you reboot to the CD\DVD | >> | >> Drive Letter C, | >> Windows doesn't care like R.C states. | >> The majority of customers do not care. | >> However a very small number of people care and care in different ways. | >> Some want the drive to always be C:, some do not want it to be C: | >> If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary active | >> partition on the drive when you run setup. | >> | >> Changing it after the OS is installed would cause any number or problems | >> with the OS. | >> There are references to the installed drive letter throughout the system. | >> Each of those would have to be changed for the system to work properly. | >> | >> The default for setup is to create a primary partition as the first | >> partition and create an Extended partition if a primary already exists on | >> the system. | >> Thanks, | >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT] | >> | ><SNIP> | >> | > | >> | >Hi, umwhat. | >> | > | >> | >WinXP or Vista don't much care whether they are on a primary partition | >> or on | >> | >a logical drive in an extended partition. And they don't care if they | >> are | >> | >installed on Drive C: or Drive D: or Drive X:. They go where YOU tell | >> them, | >> | >even if you are sleepwalking at the time and don't pay attention to the | >> | >dialog boxes. | >> | > | >> | >Once installed, there is no way for us mere mortals to change the drive | >> | >letters for the System Partition or the Boot Volume short of starting | >> over | >> | >and installing again. | >> | > | >> | >You might want to read a couple of KB articles: | >> | >Definitions for system volume and boot volume | >> | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/314470/EN-US/ | >> | > | >> | >You cannot change the system volume drive letter after Setup | >> | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;223769 | >> | > | >> | >Disk Management will let us change the other drive letters, but not the | >> | >System Partition and, if different, the Boot Volume. | >> | > | >> | >RC | >> | > | >> | >"umwhat" <mesomewhere@someotherplace.com> wrote in message | >> | >news:D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com... | >> | >> I t seems odd thWindows should install to a D: drive when I would | >> think it | >> | >> would default install to a C: drive. Why has it done this and why did | >> the | >> | >> installation make an extended partition and not a primary partition. | >> | >> From what I have seen I can not change the drive letters I could make | >> D: | >> | >> drive a Dynamic Partition but would that help make it into the C: | >> drive. | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> -- | >> | >> ...scribble...scribble...scribble... | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> "Bobby Johnson" wrote: | >> | >> | >> | >>> Maybe I missed it, but what is your question? | >> | >>> | >> | >>> | >> | >>> umwhat wrote: | >> | >>> > ...partition and I did not tell it to....that is funny isn't | >> | >>> > it?...anyway...the harddrive is a 320GB Sata 3.0GB/sec harddrive | >> and | >> | >>> > has 2 | >> | >>> > partitions, 1 @ 278GB and 1 @ 20GB with the backed up files left | >> over | >> | >>> > from a | >> | >>> > Windows XP installation and the files I used to install the | >> drivers | >> for | >> | >>> > 64 | >> | >>> > Bit Professional. | >> | >>> > The 278GB partition is labled D: and the small partition is | >> labelled | >> | >>> > C: | >> | >>> > which after my mere 4 years of computing leaves me feeling | >> somewhat | >> | >>> > disappointed, mostly because I think the first partition should be | >> | >>> > labelled | >> | >>> > C: and the smaller partition I think should be labelled D: . | >> | ><SNIP> | > | > |
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| Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an exten |
| Group: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |
| Date: 5/11/2008 10:26:31 AM |
| From: "Charlie Russel - MVP" [Email Address Protection] |
Good to see you back around here, Darrell. (Though I know you always lurk.<G>) -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:lBAD79usIHA.5848@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... > Hello R.C. > Good reminders > Thanks, > Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights > -------------------- > | >From: "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> > | >References: <A5315B2F-1D31-4DB4-BB76-E7DEA548021A@microsoft.com> > <uwyDWMRsIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> > <D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com> > <F763D2C7-D6FF-49DF-A215-EE01210EF823@microsoft.com> > <Ts56JSXsIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > | >Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an > exten > | >Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:07:51 -0500 > | >Lines: 1 > | >Message-ID: <6331A78E-689C-416C-B3CD-56076E10DC82@microsoft.com> > | >MIME-Version: 1.0 > | >Content-Type: text/plain; > | > format=flowed; > | > charset="iso-8859-1"; > | > reply-type=original > | >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > | >X-Priority: 3 > | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > | >Importance: Normal > | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 > | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 > | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-PostID: {6331A78E-689C-416C-B3CD-56076E10DC82} > | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-ThreadID: A5315B2F-1D31-4DB4-BB76-E7DEA548021A > | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-ParentID: AAD45698-AF82-4CAF-88BC-0AC9EF7D8048 > | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general > | >Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:17342 > | >NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1 > | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general > | > > | >Hi, Darrell. > | > > | >Thanks for jumping in! ;<) > | > > | >I'd like to remind the OP that you said, "If you boot to the... CD\DVD > to do > | >an installation..." The results are different if you run Vista Setup > from > | >within WinXP. (My mindset is Vista and I kind of forgot that the OP > said > | >WinXP x64.) > | > > | >Later, you said: > | >> If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary > active > | >> partition on the drive when you run setup. > | > > | >Often there are more than one hard drive, and sometimes they are a mix > of > | >IDE (PATA)/SATA/SCSI/USB... In this situation, the BIOS and the > operating > | >system can disagree as to which is "the drive when you run setup." :>( > | > > | >Since I have only one computer and Vista has been very stable, I've not > had > | >to reinstall Vista since I rebuilt my system over a year ago. But I > recall > | >the many reinstalls during the long beta period. I still have several > | >multi-boots installed, but seldom boot into anything but Vista Ultimate > x64, > | >which is in Drive C:, the first logical drive in the extended partition > on > | >my second HD. Each of my 3 HDs has a System Partition, but I seldom > use > any > | >other than Drive D:, which is the first (only) primary active partition > on > | >that second HD. My WinXP refused to boot at about the time Vista went > RTM > | >and all my sporadic attempts to revive it with a repair install have > failed, > | >so I haven't run WinXP in a year and a half. When WinXP w/SP3 arrives > Real > | >Soon Now, I may try the repair install again. I do boot into a > separate > | >WinXP x64 occasionally, just to be sure I still can. > | > > | >Note that it is NOT necessary for WinXP and Vista to agree on which > volume > | >is Drive C:, or any other letter. Each operating system keeps its own > | >letter assignments. But I've made sure that they agree that my WinXP > is > in > | >Drive F:, the first logical drive in the extended partition on my first > HD. > | > > | >RC > | >-- > | >R. C. White, CPA > | >San Marcos, TX > | >rc@grandecom.net > | >Microsoft Windows MVP > | >(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) > | > > | >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > message > | >news:Ts56JSXsIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... > | >> Hello, > | >> Correct. > | >> If you boot to the CD to do CD\DVD to do an installation with Windows > XP > | >> or > | >> Windows Server 2003 ( Either 32-bit or 64-bit) > | >> The local hard drive volumes are enumerated and assigned drive > letters. > | >> The first active primary partition it finds it given drive letter C. > | >> If a volume exists it gets a drive letter, if you create a new volume > it > | >> gets the next available drive letter. > | >> Setup does not reallocate hard drive letters, so if you delete a > volume, > | >> that drive letter is reserved in that setup session. > | >> Even if you create a new volume, that new volume gets the next free > drive > | >> letter. The existing drive letters are available after setup > completes > or > | >> if you reboot to the CD\DVD > | >> > | >> Drive Letter C, > | >> Windows doesn't care like R.C states. > | >> The majority of customers do not care. > | >> However a very small number of people care and care in different > ways. > | >> Some want the drive to always be C:, some do not want it to be C: > | >> If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary > active > | >> partition on the drive when you run setup. > | >> > | >> Changing it after the OS is installed would cause any number or > problems > | >> with the OS. > | >> There are references to the installed drive letter throughout the > system. > | >> Each of those would have to be changed for the system to work > properly. > | >> > | >> The default for setup is to create a primary partition as the first > | >> partition and create an Extended partition if a primary already > exists > on > | >> the system. > | >> Thanks, > | >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > | >> > | ><SNIP> > | >> | > > | >> | >Hi, umwhat. > | >> | > > | >> | >WinXP or Vista don't much care whether they are on a primary > partition > | >> or on > | >> | >a logical drive in an extended partition. And they don't care if > they > | >> are > | >> | >installed on Drive C: or Drive D: or Drive X:. They go where YOU > tell > | >> them, > | >> | >even if you are sleepwalking at the time and don't pay attention > to > the > | >> | >dialog boxes. > | >> | > > | >> | >Once installed, there is no way for us mere mortals to change the > drive > | >> | >letters for the System Partition or the Boot Volume short of > starting > | >> over > | >> | >and installing again. > | >> | > > | >> | >You might want to read a couple of KB articles: > | >> | >Definitions for system volume and boot volume > | >> | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/314470/EN-US/ > | >> | > > | >> | >You cannot change the system volume drive letter after Setup > | >> | >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;223769 > | >> | > > | >> | >Disk Management will let us change the other drive letters, but > not > the > | >> | >System Partition and, if different, the Boot Volume. > | >> | > > | >> | >RC > | >> | > > | >> | >"umwhat" <mesomewhere@someotherplace.com> wrote in message > | >> | >news:D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com... > | >> | >> I t seems odd thWindows should install to a D: drive when I > would > | >> think it > | >> | >> would default install to a C: drive. Why has it done this and > why > did > | >> the > | >> | >> installation make an extended partition and not a primary > partition. > | >> | >> From what I have seen I can not change the drive letters I could > make > | >> D: > | >> | >> drive a Dynamic Partition but would that help make it into the > C: > | >> drive. > | >> | >> > | >> | >> > | >> | >> -- > | >> | >> ...scribble...scribble...scribble... > | >> | >> > | >> | >> > | >> | >> "Bobby Johnson" wrote: > | >> | >> > | >> | >>> Maybe I missed it, but what is your question? > | >> | >>> > | >> | >>> > | >> | >>> umwhat wrote: > | >> | >>> > ...partition and I did not tell it to....that is funny isn't > | >> | >>> > it?...anyway...the harddrive is a 320GB Sata 3.0GB/sec > harddrive > | >> and > | >> | >>> > has 2 > | >> | >>> > partitions, 1 @ 278GB and 1 @ 20GB with the backed up files > left > | >> over > | >> | >>> > from a > | >> | >>> > Windows XP installation and the files I used to install the > | >> drivers > | >> for > | >> | >>> > 64 > | >> | >>> > Bit Professional. > | >> | >>> > The 278GB partition is labled D: and the small partition is > | >> labelled > | >> | >>> > C: > | >> | >>> > which after my mere 4 years of computing leaves me feeling > | >> somewhat > | >> | >>> > disappointed, mostly because I think the first partition > should be > | >> | >>> > labelled > | >> | >>> > C: and the smaller partition I think should be labelled D: . > | >> | ><SNIP> > | > > | > > |
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