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May 16, 2008  
Subject: A second Hotmail account
Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger
Date: 5/4/2008 6:29:30 AM
From: "Joe" [Email Address Protection]

I currently have a Hotmail account and also chat using windows live
Messenger. My wife would like her own account. How do I set up her account
without re-installing the Windows software and all that. She just wants her
own Hotmail for email and to chat also. We need to have this done from the
same computer........can we have two accounts and each have our own login?
Help Please......
Thanks
Joe



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Subject: Re: A second Hotmail account
Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger
Date: 5/4/2008 6:39:40 AM
From: "mynetx [Messenger Plus!]" [Email Address Protection]

Hello Joe,

Windows Live Messenger does support multiple accounts. Simply sign out of
the first account (rightclicking the Messenger icon in the systray, and
clicking "Sign out"), then enter your wife's Windows Live ID and the
corresponding password. Choose whether you want to store the credentials,
then sign in.
For using 2 different email accounts in Windows Live Mail, you will have to
set up a second user account within your operating system as Windows Live
Mail does not support identities anymore, like Outlook Express did. Of
course, using the Hotmail website mail program is possible without using 2
Windows User Accounts. Simply enter the corresponding Windows Live ID and
password when prompted for at the login.live.com sign-in page.

Regards,
mynetx

"Joe" <Joe@home.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:OyEFkrerIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I currently have a Hotmail account and also chat using windows live
> Messenger. My wife would like her own account. How do I set up her
> account without re-installing the Windows software and all that. She just
> wants her own Hotmail for email and to chat also. We need to have this
> done from the same computer........can we have two accounts and each have
> our own login?
> Help Please......
> Thanks
> Joe
>

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Subject: Re: A second Hotmail account
Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger
Date: 5/4/2008 7:15:34 AM
From: "N. Miller" [Email Address Protection]

On Sun, 4 May 2008 08:29:30 -0500, Joe wrote:

> I currently have a Hotmail account and also chat using windows live
> Messenger. My wife would like her own account. How do I set up her account
> without re-installing the Windows software and all that.

You go to the Windows Live site and sign her up. The Windows Live Messenger,
and Hotmail, accounts are independent of the Windows OS on your computer.

> She just wants her own Hotmail for email and to chat also. We need to have
> this done from the same computer........can we have two accounts and each have
> our own login?

Yes, but I believe you can't both be logged in at the same time from the
same computer. You can have multiple Hotmail accounts set up in Windows Live
Mail (the desktop mail client), but you can only log in one user ID at a
time through a web browser, or through Windows Live Messenger (the IM, or
"chat", client).

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

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Subject: Re: A second Hotmail account
Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger
Date: 5/4/2008 7:19:25 AM
From: "N. Miller" [Email Address Protection]

On Sun, 4 May 2008 15:39:40 +0200, mynetx [Messenger Plus!] wrote:

> For using 2 different email accounts in Windows Live Mail, you will have to
> set up a second user account within your operating system as Windows Live
> Mail does not support identities anymore, like Outlook Express did.

Odd. I have three Windows Live Hotmail accounts set up in Windows Live Mail.
Assuming that you don't mind if multiple users can access each other's email
messages.

You only need separate OS user accounts if you intend to provide security of
user data against viewing by other users; and, in that case, you *need* to
set up each user with a password protected Limited User Account. Giving all
users full administrative rights, and no passwords, defeats the purpose of
separate user accounts.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

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Subject: Re: A second Hotmail account
Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger
Date: 5/4/2008 8:05:58 AM
From: "mynetx [Messenger Plus!]" [Email Address Protection]

Sure, adding multiple email accounts is possible, but not as for separated
from being able to read the other ones.
And, using Messenger Plus! Live, Messenger WILL allow to sign in with 2
accounts simultaneously on one machine.

mynetx

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1snskryypai90$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 15:39:40 +0200, mynetx [Messenger Plus!] wrote:
>
>> For using 2 different email accounts in Windows Live Mail, you will have
>> to
>> set up a second user account within your operating system as Windows Live
>> Mail does not support identities anymore, like Outlook Express did.
>
> Odd. I have three Windows Live Hotmail accounts set up in Windows Live
> Mail.
> Assuming that you don't mind if multiple users can access each other's
> email
> messages.
>
> You only need separate OS user accounts if you intend to provide security
> of
> user data against viewing by other users; and, in that case, you *need* to
> set up each user with a password protected Limited User Account. Giving
> all
> users full administrative rights, and no passwords, defeats the purpose of
> separate user accounts.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


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Subject: Re: A second Hotmail account
Group: microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger
Date: 5/4/2008 7:10:39 PM
From: "N. Miller" [Email Address Protection]

On Sun, 4 May 2008 17:05:58 +0200, mynetx [Messenger Plus!] wrote:

> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1snskryypai90$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...

>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 15:39:40 +0200, mynetx [Messenger Plus!] wrote:

>>> For using 2 different email accounts in Windows Live Mail, you will have
>>> to
>>> set up a second user account within your operating system as Windows Live
>>> Mail does not support identities anymore, like Outlook Express did.

>> Odd. I have three Windows Live Hotmail accounts set up in Windows Live
>> Mail. Assuming that you don't mind if multiple users can access each
>> other's email messages.
>>
>> You only need separate OS user accounts if you intend to provide security
>> of user data against viewing by other users; and, in that case, you *need*
>> to set up each user with a password protected Limited User Account. Giving
>> all users full administrative rights, and no passwords, defeats the purpose
>> of separate user accounts.

> Sure, adding multiple email accounts is possible, but not as for separated
> from being able to read the other ones.

Read my response again, please. Where I said, "You only need separate OS
user accounts if you intend to provide security of user data against viewing
by other users...". What this means is, if you don't want your Significant
other to read your email, you need to set up a separate, password protected
OS account. This is because WLM has dropped the MSOE concept of the
Identity.

For reasons unclear to me, people think that the MSOE Identity provides
security for each account in a separate Identity; it does not. On Windows 9x
systems, there was no way, even with MSOE Identities, to lock oth users out
of your MSOE account data. All another user had to do was execute the
"Import" command from within his MSOE Identity, point it to your message
store, and suck in all of your email.

Even with MSOE Identities, the ***ONLY*** way to secure account data against
snooping was a file system security which Windows 9x lacks. With Windows XP
and Windows Vista, you can set up LUAs, with password protection. When you
log off your LUA, nobody can access your user data without your password.

If you must share a common login with other users, you need to understand:
Everybody who has access to that account, has access to the file system for
that account. The fill system permissions are set according to the user who
is logged in, per the OS permissions. I know of no applications with
independent user security. If I can read the disk, I can read the files on
the disk. If I have the file system permissions of the account I am using,
you won't be able to hide Jack from me.

> And, using Messenger Plus! Live, Messenger WILL allow to sign in with 2
> accounts simultaneously on one machine.

Messenger Plus! Live is not a Microsoft product. Windows Live Messenger, the
Microsoft Product, will only permit one Live account log in per instance.

In any case, if you are using a single Windows XP, or Windows Vista user
account for multiple users, you can't secure the file system against access
by the users logged in with that account. All users in that account have
access to the file system per that account file system permissions.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

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